BREAKING NEWS: new strategies to tackle knife crime

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The Home Secretary, Sajid Javid, has announced a new strategy to help tackle knife crime.

He has put forward the idea of Knife Crime Prevention Orders. These are orders (instructions) that could be given out by the police, if they think someone often carries a knife. They'll be able to give these orders out to anyone aged 12 or over.

The orders include:

  • Making the suspect attend a knife awareness course
  • Banning them from meeting up with members in their gang (for up to two years)
  • Giving the suspect a curfew to keep them at home and not on the streets where gangs hang out
  • Banning the suspect from social media

If someone ignores the order, it will be a criminal offence and they could end up going to prison for up to two years.

Some questions to think about...

  1. Do you think this a good idea? Why/why not?
  2. Is it fair to punish someone if they are just suspected of carrying a knife, even if they haven't been caught?
  3. Will banning a suspect from using social media make a difference?
  4. Is a two year prison sentence a good idea for people who break the order?
  5. Is 12 too young?

Leave your comments below and check out the article on the BBC here.

Comments (42)

  • Hanson-logo-250x250.jpg trustful_grasshopper
    Hanson Academy 01 Feb 2019

    that the police in volde

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  • Hanson-logo-250x250.jpg methodical_tomato
    Hanson Academy 01 Feb 2019

    I think this is a good and bad idea. I think this is a good idea because it will reduce knife crime . It also gives teenagers less freedom which is quite unfair.

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  • Hanson-logo-250x250.jpg lively_violin
    Hanson Academy 01 Feb 2019

    i mainly think this is a good idea because it stops young children from getting to the grooming stage of a gang, it can also keep children safe from danger and harm. I also think this is a bad idea because some gangs might decide to attack and kidnap, if they want another young child to groom for them, so that they can get the child to do dangerous things for them.

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  • Hanson-logo-250x250.jpg humble_lobster
    Hanson Academy 01 Feb 2019

    they should get the police involved

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  • Arnhem-Wharf-logo-250x250.jpg efficient_information
    Arnhem Wharf Primary School 01 Feb 2019

    I think 12 is a young age to carry a knife on the streets.

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  • New-Horizons-logo-250x250.jpg energetic_rock
    New Horizons Children's Academy 04 Feb 2019

    In my opinion, people who are suspected of carrying a knife SHOULDN’T be punished or in any way get into trouble. For example, if you are scared of going outside (and you walk home), you might carry a knife for protection, and you would still get punished!
    One question: Why is crime tolerated?

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  • Michael-Faraday-logo-250x250.jpg majestic_region
    Michael Faraday School 05 Feb 2019

    I think you should keep them not meeting a gang members for as long as possible. If they meet up again they can go back to being a part of that bad side. I also think that 12 isn't to young to be in prisoned everyone should learn from their mistakes. They should be educated to go the right way. It is a good idea to give them a knife awareness course because they should learn not to be too scared. I think they shouldn't stay home. They should be accompanied by a responsible adult. The last thing is that it is good for them to be banned from social media because they won't be in touch with the members of the gang. Social media is still a type of way to message someone.

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  • Olivia-Avatar.jpg Olivia @ the BNC 05 Feb 2019 in reply to majestic_region's comment

    Good reasoning. Thanks for sharing your opinion!

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  • Hanson-logo-250x250.jpg trustful_grasshopper
    Hanson Academy 06 Feb 2019

    they need more police

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  • Pimlico-logo-250x250.jpg strong_lime
    Pimlico Primary Academy 06 Feb 2019

    the police should be involved

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  • Richmond-Hill-logo-250x250.jpg outstanding_passionfruit
    Richmond Hill Academy 07 Feb 2019

    12 is right because as they go into high school they will be at risk.

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  • Richmond-Hill-logo-250x250.jpg outstanding_passionfruit
    Richmond Hill Academy 07 Feb 2019

    how can gangs be stopped and how do you know where gangs are.

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  • Cowes-logo-250x250.jpg earnest_photograph
    Cowes Enterprise College 07 Feb 2019

    In my opinion i think that is a bad idea as you haven't even been seen or caught with a knife. Giving someone at such a young age a ban for social media and going out to see his/hers mates can be traumatizing and make them feel down.

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  • The-Ruth-Gorse-logo-250x250.jpg creative_sparrow
    The Ruth Gorse Academy 07 Feb 2019

    Punishing kids as young as 12 and even if they are only a suspect is probably the Home Secretary’s way of telling the public he’s going to be tough on knife crime. For those that do actually get caught with a knife, can you imagine how upset their parents would be? The fear of not knowing what harm could come to their child, not to mention the horror of knowing your child is involved in criminal activities. So I can see that some parents would be grateful of such intervention to put their child safely back on the straight and narrow. And if a young person did breach their orders then sent to ‘prison’, I would like to think they were entering some kind of rehabilitation and will not be anything like an adult prison. Hopefully that young person would come out with his life back on track with a better future.

    Having said that, I can see negative consequences if police are allowed the powers to automatically arrest people that were merely just a suspect and innocent too with no chance of them proving otherwise. I think people would start to get very angry and hostile towards the police. And so I can see how some people would see the Knife Prevention Crime orders to be very unfair.

    Whilst I agree with most of the strategies, I am however very skeptical on how they are going to enforce the orders. Not attending the Knife Prevention Crime awareness course, fair enough, that would be easy to record as a breach of order. However I would be very intrigued to know the details on how they would prevent suspects from seeing a gang member and vice versa, would they even be able to prevent gang members contacting the suspect? Preventing them going on social media is a good idea but it would be a tough one to enforce. They could get access via friends, family, changing identity etc. so unless the police monitor the suspect 24 hours a day, I can see it being a very difficult and costly task to implement.

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  • The-Ruth-Gorse-logo-250x250.jpg witty_petal
    The Ruth Gorse Academy 07 Feb 2019

    I think it's a good thaught but not a good way to follow through with it .This is because people will get lonely from no social media and might become depressed.However at the same time,knife crime is a severe issue and if children wouldn't use social media that you see violence in all the time then mabe it would make them understand your perspective and stop.I think that although it's to make sure everyone's safe,it is wrong to a use someone for 'carrying a knife' because they might not be.In my oppinion yes because a lot of people rely on sotial media to entertain them (children more than adults ).I think that the age of 12 isn't too young because not only do you want to tell adults it's bad but also kids.Also it's children mainly who use social media to entertain themself so don't that would mabe make them understand.

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  • Olivia-Avatar.jpg Olivia @ the BNC 08 Feb 2019 in reply to creative_sparrow's comment

    Excellent open-mindedness and scepticism shown. Well done!

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  • Portobello-logo-250x250.jpg honorable_bilberry
    Portobello High School 08 Feb 2019

    i think these ideas are great but ''Is it fair to punish someone if they are just suspected of carrying a knife, even if they haven't been caught?'' We don't think it is fair because if someone looks suspicious the police might stop them for no reason but it could be there friend that had the knife not them so we dont think they should be judged by the way they look

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  • Michael-Faraday-logo-250x250.jpg noble_crab
    Michael Faraday School 11 Feb 2019

    I agree with some of these idea's although I do think 12 is too young and it's not fair to suspect on someone when they might even not be carrying a knife!Banning someone from social media isn't fair because you might be the person that goes on social media to watch YouTube videos and listen to music.Banning social media will not stop them from carrying a knife.For example, if you have a phone but you can't use social media you can still message people on your normal text and you could message a friend telling them to carry a knife for you and if they got caught ending up going to jail. I want to know why Sajid Javid thinks 12 is a suitable age for children to follow these rules.

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  • John-Ray-logo-250x250.jpg dazzling_fossil
    John Ray Junior School 12 Feb 2019

    Why do young children carry knifes

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  • John-Ray-logo-250x250.jpg splendid_raccoon
    John Ray Junior School 12 Feb 2019

    For me Sajids idea is very smart because children under 12 shouldant buy or carry knives

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  • Willowtown-logo-250x250.jpg empowered_earth
    Willowtown Community Primary School 12 Feb 2019

    I agree its a good idea to punish people that are carrying knifes around the streets without a police knowing because they could be harming them self's or other people and even if you re 12

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  • Willowtown-logo-250x250.jpg openminded_cherry
    Willowtown Community Primary School 12 Feb 2019

    I agree with most of these ideas, but if you want to ban social media I would recommend just deleting the things that could lead to information, planning or doing a knife crime. The age of twelve is a convenient age but you don't really know what age is capable of this inconvenient crime. Also you cant really just accuse someone even if they are not even carrying a knife so they could at least search the suspect first.

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  • Highdown-logo-250x250.jpg friendly_snow
    Highdown School 12 Feb 2019

    i believe that this is a excellent idea

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  • Newbury-Park-logo-250x250.jpg jolly_bilberry
    Newbury Park Primary School 12 Feb 2019

    I think at the age of 12 is the right age to arrest people with knife .People at this age start to carry knifes like a test to be in a criminal gang.

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  • Boutcher-logo-250x250.jpg free_squid
    Boutcher C of E Primary School 13 Feb 2019

    I think this is more involving gangs at the evening .

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  • Boutcher-logo-250x250.jpg credible_apple
    Boutcher C of E Primary School 13 Feb 2019

    i think i might have found a really good solution about knife crime

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  • Boutcher-logo-250x250.jpg free_squid
    Boutcher C of E Primary School 13 Feb 2019

    I also think that it is also by people being scared so they have knifes by there side to protect them self and inside they are really scared.

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  • Boutcher-logo-250x250.jpg credible_apple
    Boutcher C of E Primary School 13 Feb 2019

    my solution is that we could increase stop and serch in puplic so more people can be safe and because people could act casually and dress up cashually and could and have really hurt someone or mabey even kill someone at the time so we need more police to stop and serch everyone and anyone who lookes suspicouse and who walkes suspicie

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  • Cowes-logo-250x250.jpg brilliant_guitar
    Cowes Enterprise College 13 Feb 2019

    Banning someone from meeting up with their gang will not always work as most people who are carrying knives should ( if they are smart ) are aware of the consequences, so, i dont think that banning them from seeing their gangs are going to help. Just my opinion.

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  • St-Barnabas-logo-250x250.jpg digital_concept
    St Barnabas C of E Primary School 14 Feb 2019

    that police in that place are so good and it is all dusty and weired

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  • St-Barnabas-logo-250x250.jpg crafty_speech
    St Barnabas C of E Primary School 14 Feb 2019

    You should not be part of a gang because you can get into very big trble . So don't be a part of a gang. Gangs are not right of good people. So if you want to be a gang you will be found and you will go to jail

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  • Bruntcliffe-logo-250x250.jpg fantastic_bell
    Bruntcliffe Academy 15 Feb 2019

    Gangs are a group of people who usually commit unimaginable crimes, many people join them, as they want to be known as somebody powerful, and the way they see it, is that violence is the only way to express your power.

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  • Hornsey-logo-250x250.jpg confident_swan
    Hornsey School for Girls 17 Feb 2019 in reply to energetic_rock's comment

    you shouldn't feel so scared you should need to carry a knife I'm pretty sure its a criminal offence to carry it even if you don't intend to use it because self defence counts as physical harm to another person.
    Also crime isn't tolerated its just hard to find the government don't have fundings for metal detectors in every building and large areas are hard for a few police to cover. It is an extremely difficult job trying to protect large amounts of people.

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  • Hornsey-logo-250x250.jpg confident_swan
    Hornsey School for Girls 17 Feb 2019

    To cut off a teenager from the world and people they know is a bad way to deal with an issue of knife handling
    since the most likely reason would carry a knife to harm someone is a large emotional trauma or a fear of being considered weak. Yes i think knife handling is extremely serious and should be dealt with but just stressing out the person even more might make them even more likely to carry and/or harm somebody with a knife. Carrying a knife for self defence is an issue too. I do not think it is a good option because the weapon could be used against you and you don't know if someone searches your bag, finds it, and assumes you have used it to harm somebody. It is also unlikely to be any use in the event of an attack because many people believe they can use it and either find themselves incapable or opposed by a much larger and stronger being who may also be handling a weapon. Since you are unlikely to ever use the knife in any gang attack it is too much risk to carry one and as a result you could be arrested or suspected. In addition the suspect may have a completely good reason to carry a knife and may not even be in possession of one. I think its important to have evidence before imprisoning or charging a 12+ year old. Although i think if someone is connected to gang activity including knifes they should also be charged since they gave full consent to the actions of the rest of the gang and did not inform the police. Finally i think they should attend a knife awareness course because it will open their eyes to the faults and consequences of their actions. I do not consider this a good way to handle knife crime.

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  • Olivia-Avatar.jpg Olivia @ the BNC 18 Feb 2019 in reply to confident_swan's comment

    Great reasoning, well done.

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  • The-Ruth-Gorse-logo-250x250.jpg balanced_singer
    The Ruth Gorse Academy 20 Feb 2019

    I disagree with this idea, owing to the fact that, if a 'suspect' attends a knife awareness course and they're under twelve. Wouldn't that mean that they're still in school? Also, they would be getting a lot of education about violent crime already because of PSHCEE days. Furthermore, if this course is being conducted by the government ( who are linked to the police ) it would be a little daunting for the person as the government has a lot of power. Therefore, if a person is kept away from their gang for a while won't they be very eager to get back to the gang? And also, the person is only 'suspected' of carrying a knife, so they would be having a curfew at home for no reason if they aren't a criminal. Also, it would be a waste of time for the government as well because this person may have done nothing wrong, and they've set up this huge coarse for them. Furthermore, if a person at the age of twelve takes part in something like having a curfew at home because they have been suspected of carrying a knife, how will it effect their future careers they have interests in? Two years in prison is way too much for a twelve year old to handle because they are still growing and they need an education.
    Banning a person from their social media has it's positives and negatives. A positive is that if the person is a criminal, social media may be a way for them to stay in contact with their gang. Also, social media shows a lot of crime so it's not really deterring them away from crime.
    A prison sentence is a bit extravagant for a twelve year old. I mean, house arrest is understandable, but a prison sentence?
    Yes, twelve is too young.

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