Should we get involved -both sides

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In out BNC lesson this week, we learned about open mindedness.

Reasons To

Thr reasons that I thought, and my friends, are

  • We started the agreement in the first place.

This is a true fact. We were the people that took Hong Kong away from China. So while the people of China adapted to new rules, Hong Kong grew used to our rules. So when China took them back, they weren't used to the new rules, escpecially the trial in China.

  • China broke their agreement with us

China was the one who broke the agreement. In the ' 1 country 2 system' agrreement said overall, China had to give Hong Kong democracy until a certain time, the people of Hong Kong say they are not giving them all the rights. So because we were the ones who did the agreement we should.

  • Us and Hong Kong have a history

What I mean by this is that, us and Hong Kong have a history of almost 100 years. They have been living under all the same rules and speak the same language as us.

Reasons Against

  • It will ruin our relasionshp with China.

We have imported over 45 billion worth of goods to China, at any time if they fall out wwith Britain, thy could stop giving us those items.

  • China has the biggest army in the world.

This was one of the facts on our sheet. Our army - in Bitain - can fit into a football stadium. If you look at China, they have a big country. There army is huge, if they fall out with eachother, we could have conflict.

  • It will split families.

Some people who were born in Hong Kong live in China, and some who were born in China live in Hong Kong. If we make an agreement, it might split families, which will make things worse.

I agree with we shouldnt help. It sounds bad, but its best for everyone. People shouldn't break the law, then they won't go into China. People in my class also say that if they dont like it there, they can move countries, or adpt to the new rules.

Thank you for reading my post.

Comments (13)

  • Olivia-Avatar.jpg Olivia @ the BNC
    19 Sep 2019

    This is a good post that shows reasons on both sides - well done. I have given you a star for your open-mindedness.
    I would like to challenge your conclusion. You say that people shouldn't break the law and if they don't like it they should move. What might be some of the challenges with this? Can you think of this from the perspective of someone who has lived in Hong Kong all their life?

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    1. Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg entertaining_strawberry | Birchwood C of E Primary School
      Olivia @ the BNC's comment 20 Sep 2019

      If I think of it from the perspective of a citizen of Hong Kong, I would actually believe that I shouldn't need to move, after all it is their home, and I believe that the rules should be the same as China said in their agreement. If things got too worse, and China took over completely, I would feel as if I were being force to move out of my own home.
      Thank you for challenging my opinion, it has made me change my mind a bit. I will consider this more often

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  • Boutcher-logo-250x250.jpg involved_watermelon | Boutcher C of E Primary School B
    21 Sep 2019

    we should NOT get involved because we dont want their to be a war between BOTH countries

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  • Evelyn-Street-logo-250x250.jpg bold_drum | Evelyn Street Primary School C
    23 Sep 2019

    I totally agree we should definitely not get involved because we don’t want war .😱😱

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  • Graveney-logo-250x250.jpg beloved_chocolate | Graveney School
    24 Sep 2019

    I think that maybe we should get involved because it could affect us as well - the extradition bill may be threatening to expatriots living the Hong Kong, as well as the locals. If they are arrested and their trial is held in China, this could be bad for them, especially if they are opposed to Chinese rule in Hong Kong, as their justice system is often very unfair to their enemies, and generally. Also, the consequences could be dire and bad for their general health (mental, physical, emotional, etc.). Therefore, it would be a good thing to interfere, from a moral standpoint. In addition to this, we have a certain degree of responsibility still in Hong Kong, as we brought in many laws, and although we do not run it now, we still have a lot of influence through many expatriots living there and many of our laws still being enforced. People have argued that we should not oppose China because they could start a war with us, however, despite them having a large army and probably the capability to win, they almost definitely would not want to do this because it would ruin many trade agreements. Attacking Britain would ruin trade agreements with us, as well as with many of our allies, and because China's economy now relies heavily on trade, they woud not want to do that. Overall, I think that morally it would be a good idea to do something about the protests and disagreements, morally.

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    1. tom Tom @ the BNC
      beloved_chocolate's comment 25 Sep 2019

      You've shown skilful reasoning here, beloved_chocolate. You'e given several reasons and connected them to build a strong argument.

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    2. The-Ruth-Gorse-logo-250x250.jpg creative_sparrow | The Ruth Gorse Academy
      beloved_chocolate's comment 02 Oct 2019

      I agree completely with what you say, just based on morality, surely we shouldn’t stand by and not say anything. If an agreement has been broken, surely we have to uphold it or else any future agreements made between countries could also be broken and no country could ever trust it to be upheld.

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    3. Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg entertaining_strawberry | Birchwood C of E Primary School
      beloved_chocolate's comment 13 Oct 2019

      I like your reasoning, but it f we did get involved,and China stopped trading certain things, one thing that we could do would be , stop trading with them. If we did do this, we would lose out on all the money they give us. 45.2 billion pounds. China would lose out on money as well, but because they are one of the wealthiest countries, it would be a bigger problem for the uk.

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  • Boutcher-logo-250x250.jpg mindblowing_clarinet | Boutcher C of E Primary School B
    24 Sep 2019

    We should help Hong Kong and by helping Hong Kong we can hopefully teach China a lesson to keep there promises

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  • Evelyn-Street-logo-250x250.jpg shy_avocado | Evelyn Street Primary School C
    07 Oct 2019

    I agree I don't want a war because China has a bigger and stronger army now.Since the last war Britain and China had i think that China has upgrade them selves so they would win but the only way Britain can win is if they team up with the other countries to make a big army.

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  • Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg fabulous_panda_bear | Birchwood C of E Primary School
    05 Nov 2019

    I think we should not. There is many reasons my first reason is they China has the biggest army. Also people in china will fall out with us if we did because we might all start a war. China might stop trading with us like they might not give us things that we need however we have already a lot of things. If we do intervene we will have to get a lot more people to help us fight against China. But we should because we can help Hong Kong and talk to China and the can listen to what people have to say about all this.

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    1. Evelyn-Street-logo-250x250.jpg bold_drum | Evelyn Street Primary School C
      fabulous_panda_bear's comment 06 Nov 2019

      I think we shouldn't get involved because China and Britain work together on projects to make sure there is enough food to go around the whole world and if Britain gets involved with Hong Kong then I don't think China and Britain would be very close anymore and then it would MAYBE cause war and that wouldn't be good for both countries because we would have to evacuate which wouldn't be good .

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  • St Lukes logo emotional_fruit | St. Luke's C of E Primary School
    17 Feb 2020

    I think that maybe we should get involved because it could affect us as well - the extradition bill may be threatening to expatriots living the Hong Kong, as well as the locals. If they are arrested and their trial is held in China, this could be bad for them, especially if they are opposed to Chinese rule in Hong Kong, as their justice system is often very unfair to their enemies, and generally. Also, the consequences could be dire and bad for their general health (mental, physical, emotional, etc.). Therefore, it would be a good thing to interfere, from a moral standpoint. In addition to this, we have a certain degree of responsibility still in Hong Kong, as we brought in many laws, and although we do not run it now, we still have a lot of influence through many expatriots living there and many of our laws still being enforced. People have argued that we should not oppose China because they could start a war with us, however, despite them having a large army and probably the capability to win, they almost definitely would not want to do this because it would ruin many trade agreements. Attacking Britain would ruin trade agreements with us, as well as with many of our allies, and because China's economy now relies heavily on trade, they woud not want to do that. Overall, I think that morally it would be a good idea to do something about the protests and disagreements, morally.

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