Would you support a 'mansion tax' to help fund the NHS?

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This is a Stretch and Challenge post - it asks you to read a newspaper article and give your opinions based on what you read.


On 8th March, the Independent newspaper broke the news that nearly three quarters of people would pay more to support the NHS, and 63% would support a 'mansion tax' to raise more funds. This would be a tax, paid annually, by anyone who owned a home worth more than £1million (the average house price in the UK is around a quarter of that - £234,000). It would help give more money to the NHS, on top of what is already raised through taxes on what people earn.

The UK currently has a 'progressive' tax system. This means that the more someone earns, the higher rate of tax they pay. For example, someone earning over £150,000 a year pay 45% of their wages in tax. Some of that will go towards the NHS.

This comes as the governments' new chancellor of the exchquer, Rishi Sunak, is preparing his budget for the coming year (how much the government will spend, and what they will spend it on).

Read the full story here.

Would you support a 'mansion tax'? If so, why? If not, why not?

What would be the arguments on the other side to yours?

Are there other ways to pay the costs of the NHS, besides the system we have at the moment?

Give your answers below, and remember to support your thoughts with reasons and evidence from the newspaper article.

Comments (26)

  • Michael-Faraday-logo-250x250.jpg memorable_orchard | Michael Faraday School
    10 Mar 2020

    tIn my opinion, I would not support a 'mansion tax' because if someone has to already have more than £1,000,000 withdrawn from their account. Some of these people are likely to have more well-paid jobs to have enough to that immense amount of money, which would result in them paying a larger amount in their income tax due to a new system the NHS has created. Therefore, if they were to pay £1,000,000+, a bigger income tax plus an additional tax to pay! I think this is unfair; they may be needing the spare money for important entities that cost a great deal of money. But if the government consumes all of their money for unnecessary reasons, they would have a little amount of money to spend! However, if someone has enough money to pay over £1,000,000, they can easily go private, which would mean a mansion tax would not have anything to do with them.

    However, another person may argue against me is that mansion tax can discourage other working people to pay tax; since the overwhelming amounts of money are coming towards the NHS, what would be the use of them putting there share in it? 'Keep your friends close but your enemies closer', meaning maybe the amount the NHS is taking is good as the bad illnesses and diseases. We would need to be close and active as they can attack (infect the patient further). To be able to do that, we would need things to defend and alter the foe's power which is all the types of equipment the NHS has. However, they would need a large amount of money to do so, which is why mansion tax would help us as instead of small amounts of money, it would be a large overflow of money.

    If I were to choose a whole different system, I would say that the NHS should be in donations as it is not only optional; everyone can pay. So, if someone was not able to pay tax before with the donation system, they would, as they would be able to pay less than £12,500. This would be more of a general activity because everyone can join whether jobless or not! The whole world can enter; donations are normally for the whole world to participate in, which would increase the amount of money the NHS would earn yearly.

    However, a donation would not make much profit as the amount that is supposed to be given is not specified, which will affect the NHS' work quality. Also, that may seem like a large amount of money from a different country may be small. For example, 72,000 naira (the ANIgerian currency) is only £150 in Egland. Since the NHS is only for Britain, it would be quite unfair for other countries to pay for something that is not related to their country. For example, It's like you are buying your friend something; they give you nothing in return.

    In conclusion, I have tried to use open-mindedness as much as I can.

    Thank you for reading,
    memorable_orchard.

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    1. tom Tom @ the BNC
      memorable_orchard's comment 11 Mar 2020

      Do you think donations woud be frequent enough? Would people get so wrapped up in their daily lives that they forget to donate?

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      1. St-Barnabas-logo-250x250.jpg elated_parrot | St Barnabas C of E Primary School
        Tom @ the BNC's comment 27 Mar 2020

        Not only this but surely leaving it to voluntary donations is a bit risky. I don't think that mansion taxes are good because if they raise how much people pay they won't be able to afford essentials.

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  • Michael-Faraday-logo-250x250.jpg memorable_orchard | Michael Faraday School
    11 Mar 2020

    That is a good point mentioned. However, they would notice it sooner or later as the news may be part of their daily routine and they would aware the general public that the NHS is having financial problems due to the lack of donations, which is what would remind them to donate. Also, if they get hurt and there was a lack of the required entity the cause would mostly be that there is not a sufficient amount or no donations being given. In conclusion, I do not think donations would be less frequent because of the reason given.

    Thank you for reading.
    memorable_orchard.

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  • Richmond-Hill-logo-250x250.jpg protective_orange | Richmond Hill Academy
    12 Mar 2020

    tIn my opinion, I would not support a 'mansion tax' because if someone has to already have more than £1,000,000 withdrawn from their account. Some of these people are likely to have more well-paid jobs to have enough to that immense amount of money, which would result in them paying a larger amount in their income tax due to a new system the NHS has created. Therefore, if they were to pay £1,000,000+, a bigger income tax plus an additional tax to pay! I think this is unfair; they may be needing the spare money for important entities that cost a great deal of money. But if the government consumes all of their money for unnecessary reasons, they would have a little amount of money to spend! However, if someone has enough money to pay over £1,000,000, they can easily go private, which would mean a mansion tax would not have anything to do with them.

    However, another person may argue against me is that mansion tax can discourage other working people to pay tax; since the overwhelming amounts of money are coming towards the NHS, what would be the use of them putting there share in it? 'Keep your friends close but your enemies closer', meaning maybe the amount the NHS is taking is good as the bad illnesses and diseases. We would need to be close and active as they can attack (infect the patient further). To be able to do that, we would need things to defend and alter the foe's power which is all the types of equipment the NHS has. However, they would need a large amount of money to do so, which is why mansion tax would help us as instead of small amounts of money, it would be a large overflow of money.

    If I were to choose a whole different system, I would say that the NHS should be in donations as it is not only optional; everyone can pay. So, if someone was not able to pay tax before with the donation system, they would, as they would be able to pay less than £12,500. This would be more of a general activity because everyone can join whether jobless or not! The whole world can enter; donations are normally for the whole world to participate in, which would increase the amount of money the NHS would earn yearly.

    However, a donation would not make much profit as the amount that is supposed to be given is not specified, which will affect the NHS' work quality. Also, that may seem like a large amount of money from a different country may be small. For example, 72,000 naira (the ANIgerian currency) is only £150 in Egland. Since the NHS is only for Britain, it would be quite unfair for other countries to pay for something that is not related to their country. For example, It's like you are buying your friend something; they give you nothing in return.

    In conclusion, I have tried to use open-mindedness as much as I can.

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    1. Olivia-Avatar.jpg Olivia @ the BNC
      protective_orange's comment 12 Mar 2020

      I've given you a star for giving a range of opinions - well done. Some of your reasoning is a bit confusing, which means that I'm sometimes unsure whether your point is for or against the tax. Can you give a one sentence summary for each paragraph that clearly sums up the point you're making?
      Eg.
      1. Conclusion:
      2. Conclusion:
      3. Conclusion:
      4. Conclusion

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    2. The Sherwood School cheerful_photograph | The Sherwood School
      protective_orange's comment 15 Mar 2020

      You have copied and pasted memorable_orchard's comment, protective_orange. Please can you check this Burnet News Club.

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      1. Olivia-Avatar.jpg Olivia @ the BNC
        cheerful_photograph's comment 16 Mar 2020

        Thank you for pointing this out. We take plagiarism very seriously at the BNC. If this happens again, protective_orange will not be allowed to use the Hub.

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    3. Olivia-Avatar.jpg Olivia @ the BNC
      protective_orange's comment 16 Mar 2020

      This comment has been copied from another BNC member. We take plagiarism very seriously. If this happens again, you will not be allowed to use the Hub.

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  • The Sherwood School productive_eel | The Sherwood School
    13 Mar 2020

    People should pay mansion tax but it should be voluntary .As well as this, people should pay more if they want .This means that the NHS could continue to a free health service. Everyone that relies on it will be saved.People's house that are over one million should not have to pay.This is because they might have given the house to a homeless person or they might be broke after buying the house.

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  • The Sherwood School grateful_crab | The Sherwood School
    13 Mar 2020

    I believe that richer people should pay mansion tax since they are fine financially wise even when they pay taxes as much as they can pay, ( I am not trying to say they should spend all their money) but that they should have higher tax payment bills to pay, as already stated, they will still be fine financially wise even if they pay taxes.

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  • The Sherwood School cheerful_photograph | The Sherwood School
    15 Mar 2020

    After reading this short passage above I was shocked that the 'Mansion Tax' had not already been taken into course before this post had been released. Some people are struggling to pay their tax with such low earnings but the rich people are enjoying life paying their tax in ease. Many famous celebrities have been caught not paying their tax multiple times in the past such as: Cristiano Ronaldo; LeBron James and even the richest and famous actor in India, Vijay. Most people with low wages and small income still manage to pay off their tax but the people with a lot of money who have enough money to pay off their tax cannot do it, how is it fair on the people who pay their tax and give their money to the community if people who have sufficient money do not pay and still sometimes get away with it. There has been raids on houses in the past by the taxmen to check if anyone has hidden money in their house so they do not need to pay their tax. Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs (HM Revenue and Customs or HMRC) is a group of people who monitor people’s taxes and check if they have payed of their taxes. The tax was only a proposal in the United Kingdom, but proved very controversial and received widespread media coverage. People who did have a: house, bungalow or mansion over £1,000,000.00 were against this very much while people who had a house around the average house price liked the proposal and wanted it to take place soon. The NHS is lacking some features and space so if a mansion tax was included in to help fund it, children and parents will have better health care and will enjoy having the National Health Service by their side. In the past people have had a lot of issues and complaints with the help that the National Health Service has given to them so with the money funded more: hospital beds, machines, monitors and staff could be hired to help carry the National Health Service and take it for many years to come.359
    (BRAINSTAND)
    I strongly disagree with the idea of Mansion Tax. Just because people are rich does not mean we have the right to snatch as much money as we can from them to help the community. They are also human beings just like us so why can we just take extra money off them as new taxes are introduced. I understand that the National Health Service is at risk of a downfall but do you not think that with billions of pounds coming from the people already that the National Health Service is just wasting its money by using it in the wrong ways such as increasing wages to attract doctors to join them while that money could be used to buy medicines for their patients who are in urgent need of help and advice. This is why the National Health Service is having major issues with its work. People who do not apply for the Mansion Tax need to think about the people who do and think about their problems with this. It may help them but it will not help the ones who are losing large sums of money each month. They need to be treated like any other person. I am okay with them having more tax then others because their income is higher but this is just unfair on them. I have learned from the Burnet News Club that we should value other people’s viewpoints like we do to ours. So, having to pay extra money will not make them be willing to do this for their community and others around the country. People should be willing to help others around the world and if not then they are not making a profit from paying their tax. They have to be respected just like us.

    Overall, I believe that the Mansion Tax should be introduced and I believe that it is a good system that will help the future of the National Health Service. I think that it should be introduced by the end of this year so we have enough time to take it in.

    Thank you for reading my comment,
    cheerful_photograph

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    1. Olivia-Avatar.jpg Olivia @ the BNC
      cheerful_photograph's comment 16 Mar 2020

      A well-reasoned comment. Let's now work on your conclusions! Can you say which of your reasons is strongest, and why you disagree with the other side of the argument? Otherwise, it seems like you are flitting between the two - it would be good to draw your reasons to a conclusion by evaluating which is most convincing.

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  • Hammond School logo versatile_molecule | Hammond Junior School B
    18 Mar 2020

    'Nearly three quarters of people would pay more to support the NHS, and 63% would support a 'mansion tax' to raise more funds.'
    What is this statistic trying to make us think?
    It is trying to make us think that many people would pay more to support the NHS and many would support a mansion tax, in short, many people care about the NHS. What might be some reasons for this? Some people might feel very frustrated how rich people are getting richer and poor people are getting poorer, a mansion tax would mean that the rich people get some of their earnings taken away to give to the NHS so that more people can access healthcare. Some people might just want to be generous and give their money to a good cause.

    What else do you have to consider before coming to a conclusion about this statistic ?
    This survey might have questioned just very rich people. This means that they might be willing to give some money up. The survey might have just questioned poor people. This means that they might feel that the rich have too much money and so as a result should give some away for a good cause. The survey might have just questioned people with a particular background, this would mean that many of the people share a particular experience, their past experiences could influence their judgement.

    I disagree with the tax because many people might not be rich but they might own a mansion and as a result might not be able to afford to more money. People might inherit mansions, they might have saved up for a long time and someone else might have payed for the mansion. I think the mansion tax could be implemented in a way that means they check the person's actual income. In this case, we do not need this type of tax. I think this because we could entirely take mansions out of this and take money from the people that earn above a certain amount. This means that you can be sure that this person can afford to loose money. Other factors have to be put into consideration before imposing a mansion tax on the community, some people might have a mansion and high pay but they might be in huge debt or could still need the money they have for many reasons.

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    1. Olivia-Avatar.jpg Olivia @ the BNC
      versatile_molecule's comment 19 Mar 2020

      Good reasoning shown, and an open-minded point at the end about people perhaps having financial difficulties despite their housing situation. How do tax bands work in the UK?

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  • Michael-Faraday-logo-250x250.jpg memorable_orchard | Michael Faraday School
    19 Mar 2020

    Thank you for pointing that out, cheerful_photograph!

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  • Hammond School logo practical_message | Hammond Junior School E
    20 Mar 2020

    I think that there should be a mansion tax because the NHS need more money and rich people have lots of money and they don't need all of it so the NHS could take it and they would have more money.

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  • Lyons Hall Primary School kind_dinosaur | Lyons Hall Primary School B
    26 Mar 2020

    In my opinion, I would support a mansion tax because if they have a well payed job they have more money in their bank account that there saving. So they have money they want to keep. this means there not using the money, so this money could go to the NHS.

    People who wouldn't support this might say that they earn that money and they deserve it. They deserve to spend it on what they want. They might also fall in money so they could go from £10,000,000 to 1,000,000.

    kind_dinosaur

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  • Lyons Hall Primary School happy_fact | Lyons Hall Primary School B
    30 Mar 2020

    In this comment I will give both sides of the argument and conclude it at the end.
    On the one had I think that I would give the NHS more money. This is because at a time like this they are struggling to get the help for all the patients in the hospitals alone (let alone the doctors surgeries as well!) We all need to come together and stop paying as much money for places such as schools because the percentage of children still going to school is very low so they don't need as much money. Also, we have the highway to think about. We could reduce the amount of money that is being used to fix the highways because not as many people are going out on the roads, which is reducing the amount that potholes are being made and the amount of cars that are getting punctures by them. This money would be invested into the NHSs fund which would take a lot of pressure off of them like deciding which medication to buy or who to take into the hospitals.
    However, on the other hand, I think that we shouldn't give more tax fund to the NHS. This is because despite the fact that the NHS are struggling with money issues, its not fair on schools and the council to take money off them because they still need the money.
    To conclude, I think that we should give more money to the NHS because there are more reasons to than not to. I think that this is the time that they need it the most so if we are going to do it at all we have to do it NOW because it is essential to keep the country running.
    That's all from me,
    Thanks for reading,
    happy_fact

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    1. tom Tom @ the BNC
      happy_fact's comment 30 Mar 2020

      Is this the case - that more money for one cause is unfair on others (schools, councils etc.)? What do others think?

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  • Lyons Hall Primary School happy_fact | Lyons Hall Primary School B
    03 Apr 2020

    Here I am again with some other ideas!
    Would you support a 'mansion tax'? If so, why? If not, why not?
    I would support a mansion tax. This is because at the moment the NHS are really struggling to get us the help that we need to get through the coronavirus together as a country. I have heard that people have been going around popping some ambulances wheels so they cant go out to emergencies. This is not very nice because the people that need help are not getting it so in order to keep the NHS up and running we may have to pay them twice or thrice the amount that they are getting at the moment. Like I said in my previous comment on this post, It still might be a bit unfair on the other things that our taxes go towards (schools and the council etc.) This is because with all this stuff about the coronavirus people seem to be forgetting about global warming, littering and other stuff like that because they still need the money but it's at the back of most of our minds right now! I would love to know if anyone agrees or disagrees with me. Comment below with your ideas. That's all from me,
    Thanks for reading,
    happy_fact

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    1. tom Tom @ the BNC
      happy_fact's comment 03 Apr 2020

      It's an interesting question - once the coronavirus news stories become less common, do you think people will care about climate change more, less, or about the same?

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  • Lyons Hall Primary School happy_fact | Lyons Hall Primary School B
    03 Apr 2020

    Does anyone else agree with me?

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  • Lyons Hall Primary School intrepid_hurricane | Lyons Hall Primary School B
    04 Apr 2020

    I have thought about this article and here is what I think:
    On the one hand, I think that I would give money to support the NHS because during the current pandemic, the NHS is really needed and they are struggling with that lack of money and shortage of staff. But like you said in a previous competition, over 500,000 people signed up to volunteer. And if that many people signed their names down, then the NHS would probably have to pay them. If we support a mansion tax, then lots of money could be use to fund the National Health Service and they would be able to pay their staff, volunteers and even buy new equipment to help treat patients with COVID-19. We could also think about things that are currently being funded which don't need money during lockdown. Like the roads and buildings. Most companies who have to work in an office will be working from home right now. If we stop using money to buy things for non-used work places, the more money can go to the NHS. Same with the roads. Occasionally, the roads are being repaired but since we are on lockdown, not many people are having to go out; only to shop for food. If we stop using money to build roads, that money can go to the NHS as well.
    On the other hand, sticking to the same key points as before, if we don't participate in helping a mansion tax, then when it is safe to come out daily again, a lot of money will be lost and we might even have to pay more normal tax to make up the money. And when schools open again, they'll need more money and it's not fair o give all of our tax to the NHS even though we need them. Back to the roads, when their in full use again, more and more cars will be on them, weakening them, day by day. When they become too weak, they'll have to close and parents will have to work from home until they have enough money to fix them. So there is a dilemma if we choose the first option, helping the mansion tax to fund the NHS.
    To conclude, I think that I would help the mansion tax but also help with the situation it caused.

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    1. tom Tom @ the BNC
      intrepid_hurricane's comment 06 Apr 2020

      Well done for giving such an in-depth answer! Bear in mind that if people volunteer this means they do not need to be paid.

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