The NHS is failing

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In Britain, when we go to the NHS we don't have to pay and we can go there and come back all for free. But is this necessary? Wouldn't it be better if we just paid for healthcare like they do in USA, because I think it would solve all the money issues with the NHS, and furthermore all of the issues? In this post I will say why I think we should pay for our healthcare in Britain, and say why it benefits USA because they do.

Why is the NHS Failing Currently?

The reason the NHS is failing right now is because it doesn't have enough money to install the right equipment to meet people's needs. The NHS gets funded by the government, and that money comes from our taxes. So in a way we are funding the NHS but not there and then when we have our appointment, and the government doesn't have enough money to satisfy the needs of doctors in the NHS. It is nice that we don't have to pay for our many visits to the hospital, but it creates more problems than it fixes, so it would be much simpler to make us pay, and I fail to see why they haven't done that yet. The government have primarily ignored the fact that the NHS isn't doing well under this rule, so that is why they haven't chose to change it as of yet. If we paid for our healthcare it would solve all financial issues to do with the NHS and if it was my choice I would definitely change it to help people become healthy and well and cured from any diseases.

Why Would it Be Better if we Paid for Our Healthcare?

I did briefly answer this question in the last paragraph, but this is the full answer. I think it would be better if we paid for our own healthcare because it means doctors who do a particularly good job if you have an infection or illness are rewarded for their successes. I think this is good because doctors have a set wage like with most jobs but they don't usually get bonuses or anything like that. This is unfair because if you are very satisfyed with what a doctor has done they don't get anything to congragulate them and you won't pay them extra because healthcare is free in Britain. In USA, once you've had an appointment you pay the doctor or the hopsital they work at. If there are problems on the way that make it harder for them then they can charge you extra for it, and this also works the other way round: if there is an easy fix to an initial problem they have to charge you less than the original asking price. In UK, the government spends 9.4% of its Gross Domestic Product whereas USA spends 17.7% of its budget; the OECD average is 9.3%. While our's is pretty much average, we could do with spending more like USA does because we could be much healthier if we did.

What are the Downsides to the Last Paragraph's Message?

As I have realised, there are some flaws to the last paragraph, and in this one I will explain and see how we can avoid them. One of the obvious flaws is the fact that a lot of the potential money spent on healthcare could be wasted and that is what happens in the USA. With a lot of money comes the need of a lot of people to organise it; with a lot of people comes a lot of responsibility and power and with that power comes a lot of decisions that could have been chosen wrongly. What I mean by this is that some people might choose to buy unneeded equipment with the money which is no upgrade to the last. This means that money is being spent trying to upgrade hospitals (specifically those of who belong to the NHS) but instead of upgrading we are staying the same. This has actually happened in USA where a lot of money has been spent but some of it wasted. And that is the main risk with trying to spend more money on healthcare in UK. But there is another problem: there are other things to focus on. What I mean by this is there are other things to do with the government's money, like preserving the environment and protecting citizens with the army. This has become apparent with the USA when they have spent to much money on healthcare in the past and they don't have enough money for other things which actually do help the country in many ways that rivals the need of healthcare.

Conclusion

To summarise, we should pay for our own healthcare because it is quite a simple idea that would benefit the NHS and would immediately stop most money problems with the NHS and how it is run. There are, however, some problems which are actually bad and hard to ignore but as long as we approach them correctly nothing bad should happen. We need to change the free healthcare agreement to make it so you have to pay.

Comments (50)

  • Olivia-Avatar.jpg Olivia @ the BNC
    10 Mar 2020

    Thanks for this post. You've given lots of thoughtful reasons and developed your answer well by looking at both sides. I've mad it an Editor's Pick as I think lots of other people would like to comment on it.

    A few questions for you/others to think about.

    1. Who would lose out if healthcare was paid for there and then? Who would this negatively effect?
    2. Would charging people more for "more difficult" problems be fair? What might be the argument against this?
    3. Why do you think governments prioritise healthcare over things like the environment?

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    1. Hammond School logo spirited_pear | Hammond Junior School A
      Olivia @ the BNC's comment 13 Mar 2020

      Who would loose out if healthcare was paid for then and there?
      I think that the people with less money would loose out because they might not be able to pay so they might avoid going to the doctors which could be fatal to their health. Also people will streets that they will not have enough money. Also the richer people will almost get free healthcare. The NHS will suffer to as many people will come in stressed so they will take their stress out on the NHS members. They will also suffer from not as much money and they already do not have as much money as they need so they will not only suffer the people will suffer to as they are not having as much money to spend on people when they are sick so they will have to turn more people away which will have a huge effect on our economy. Now with the Coronavirus they will be needing a lot more money to keep everyone safe.

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      1. tom Tom @ the BNC
        spirited_pear's comment 13 Mar 2020

        Well done for speaking up for OTHER people!

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    2. Braiswick Primary School succinct_leaves | Braiswick Primary School
      Olivia @ the BNC's comment 15 Mar 2020

      This is exactly the same as my post: Do we Deserve Free Healthcare From the NHS? It just has a different title so it shouldn't have been approved, let alone get a star and be an Editor's Pick.

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      1. Olivia-Avatar.jpg Olivia @ the BNC
        succinct_leaves's comment 16 Mar 2020

        Thank you for pointing this out. Champion_seahorse - copying other people's work is unacceptable and not in the spirit of the Burnet News Club. If this happens again, you will not be allowed to use the Hub.

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  • Hammond School logo courageous_fern | Hammond Junior School A
    10 Mar 2020

    I do not believe that we should pay for our healthcare on the spot because if you went to the doctors because you had a headache but in was only minor, you would end up paying however much the doctor charges you. If you could not afford the price, you can not get the healthcare; this is not a very good system because it should not matter how much money you have as to how well you stay.

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    1. Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg smart_parrot | Birchwood C of E Primary School
      courageous_fern's comment 13 Mar 2020

      I agree with you because you can't expect other people to pay for you or else they won't be able to pay for themselves. Also disagree with you because people are too poor to pay for themselves and need to pay for food and water and take care of their family.

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  • Hammond School logo super_meerkat | Hammond Junior School B
    10 Mar 2020

    Well done champion_seahorus keep the good work up

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    1. Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg smart_parrot | Birchwood C of E Primary School
      super_meerkat's comment 13 Mar 2020

      Why is their work good explain your reasons please.

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    2. Braiswick Primary School succinct_leaves | Braiswick Primary School
      super_meerkat's comment 16 Mar 2020

      It is NOT good as they copied it from mine (Do we Deserve Free Healthcare From the NHS?).

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      1. Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg smart_parrot | Birchwood C of E Primary School
        succinct_leaves's comment 18 Mar 2020

        Yes he has copied you because he didn't see your message

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  • Ormiston Sudbury Academy free_iceberg | Ormiston Sudbury Academy
    10 Mar 2020

    I do not believe we should scrap the NHS even though it is showing signs of failing due to the Government’s ignorance and out of sight, out of mind attitude toward the public’s health care. The majority of the Government’s probably choose private health care that unlike the public their supporters may not have access to.
    I believe one of the main problems with the NHS is the lack of money and limited resources that are wasted on people who will go there for unnecessary ailments such as a simple cold or other minor illnesses that could be dealt with at home or simply by calling 111. These people not only waste the time of the doctors but wastes resources that others may need. As you mentioned above we pay for the NHS via the Government and taxes meaning that the majority of people – excluding prisoners and the homeless- pay the same amount of money towards the NHS, which results in all citizens in the UK are treated equally and help put money into the resources people rely on, such as hospitals and pharmacists.
    By making people pay for their healthcare could that people with low incomes may not be able to access even the cheapest of requirements. In the US some citizens have to choose between their health care and basic living necessities which in addition affects their basic human rights. We really do not want to see that in this country, especially when our system is looked to by the rest of the world as the standard in healthcare.

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  • Boutcher-logo-250x250.jpg involved_watermelon | Boutcher C of E Primary School B
    10 Mar 2020

    I disagree because without the NHS many people would have died by now and without the NHS who would have found cures for sicknesses we just need to believe that the NHS can help us Champion_Seahorse

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    1. Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg smart_parrot | Birchwood C of E Primary School
      involved_watermelon's comment 13 Mar 2020

      I agree with you because if we get rid of the NHS alot of us would die and the coronervirus could wipe out thousands more people and the population of the world will drop more than ever and that damage will never be restored to the human race.

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  • Preston Manor School valuable_personality | Preston Manor School
    10 Mar 2020

    Personally I do not believe that people should be paying for healthcare as healthcare is not a luxury it is a right .We all have the right to be taken care off and have a healthy life.I completely understand your point of view but not everyone is able to pay for it but that doesn’t mean they should be stopped from living a long healthy life

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  • Millbank-logo-250x250.jpg persuasive_opportunity | Millbank Academy B
    10 Mar 2020

    I disagree with you because, the NHS has been very successful and they are doing their job properly but the reason why they are cantankerous and dismayed is that their issue is that Boris (the Clown) has not funded them with £1 billion and he said he would give it to the NHS after Brexit... what has happend he did not give the money. This is the only reason why they are failing!!!

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    1. tom Tom @ the BNC
      persuasive_opportunity's comment 11 Mar 2020

      It's important to justify your views on the Hub and back up statements with reasons. Why do you refer to Boris as 'the clown'?

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      1. Preston Manor School valuable_personality | Preston Manor School
        Tom @ the BNC's comment 13 Mar 2020

        I think there are many reasons he/she may have called Boris Johnson a clown.in my personal opinion he deserves to be called a clown as he as shown many time that he is not capable of running the country-he has shown a great deal of indecisiveness as he promises to give NHS money but how much?when?what to?Especially with the virus outbreak he has shown no sign of leadership in helping the country try to come out of this epidemic alive or even make an effort to try to come up with a solution.The NHS will suffer greatly from this as more people will get sick,they’ll need more equipment,beds,facilities but where will they get the money for that??

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    2. Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg smart_parrot | Birchwood C of E Primary School
      persuasive_opportunity's comment 13 Mar 2020

      Boris Jonson is not a clown infact if people thought that he was a clown no one would vote for him in the election

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      1. Millbank-logo-250x250.jpg persuasive_opportunity | Millbank Academy B
        smart_parrot's comment 08 May 2020

        That is the thing no one really likes him and he just gets his votes by saying things he will do and he does not. Also, I called Boris a clown because there is a copyright of a song and it mentions Boris as being a 'Clown' and I agree with this song because it says the things Priministers should do and clearly good old Boris has not done a thing it says!!

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        1. tom Tom @ the BNC
          persuasive_opportunity's comment 11 May 2020

          Is it true that no one really likes him - given he won the last election?

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          1. Millbank-logo-250x250.jpg persuasive_opportunity | Millbank Academy B
            Tom @ the BNC's comment 12 May 2020

            You are right about the that but the majority of do not like him. Especially different countries. These days he has not done anything special. But you have not mentioned everything else I said.

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          2. Millbank-logo-250x250.jpg persuasive_opportunity | Millbank Academy B
            Tom @ the BNC's comment 12 May 2020

            He was trying to be Mayor of London, that has not gone so well and Sadiq Khan is mayor and he is the right person. He would be a better Priminister.

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          3. Millbank-logo-250x250.jpg persuasive_opportunity | Millbank Academy B
            Tom @ the BNC's comment 12 May 2020

            He has not won all the elections so it is not a very big deal unless, he does something good.

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  • Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg jolly_duck | Birchwood C of E Primary School
    10 Mar 2020

    What would happen if we did pay for our health care and it did happen like the USA? For example, as we learned in lesson 2: If they go to the hospital they have to pay all the taxes after health care. But is this necessary, In session 3 we learned what would happen if they Privatise, Couldn't they just do that? It would be awfully simple and they would raise money much faster: arguing against privatizing; If they privatize wouldn't it loose patients and people would just go to local and MODERN hospitals? As you said here "if it was my choice I would change it to help people become healthy and well and cured of any diseases." correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't doctors/nursers already be doing this? They may not be able to from money issues but there are many ways to prevent that: Privatize (as said already) modernize and start handing out leaflets or put in more effort to increase healthy eating and prevent obesity. So isn't it easy enough as it is a hospital's job to come together and do what is best for the community, maybe that is, why the NHS is failing for you, have said.


    Olivias thinking questions:
    Q.Who would lose out if healthcare was paid for there and then? Who would this negatively affect?
    A. The homeless and poor, what if they were young and dumped or born homeless? That is why it is easier said than done: NOBODY (I mean nobody) can just click their fingers and correct an error, it takes time and effort but they have to think about both sides and opinions and have the locations word and input on the situation.
    If you think about it though you are making others pay whilst making others suffer and in my opinion, this isn't fair. It is a human right to have justice for those who do not have the choice of there living which makes it an even more difficult situation. On the other hand, Poor people could be facing financial problems and need to be attended to from there illness so if it was just changed it is blocking the people who need it out. Then that is where the government and people working come in- As learned in Session 1 we know that everybody who works part of their wage (or payment) goes to the NHS and very little comes back but they still get the money. But a thinking question we made as a class was "Is it fair that they pay for us and we get for free?"

    Q.Would charging people more for "more difficult" problems be fair? What might be the argument against this?
    A. As you may know, the 'Coronavirus' is a very new virus going around and would it be fair if you get that virus and not be treated? YOU WOULD BE LEFT TO DIE. You may not have the money and be an innocent man/woman just living life and catch it off somebody then don't get treated. You aren't giving Justice then: in the past year's justice has become very important, so if we just decided oh you have the flu you pay £2.00 to get a jab then a serious case you pay more shouldn't it be the other way around? That's for you to decide.

    Q.Why do you think governments prioritize healthcare over things like the environment?
    A. I have mentioned this in another answer to a thinking question briefly but I shall reply in more detail, Imagine you are in the point of view as a homeless person and you just want a normal life and people who cared and you are sick, Ok? Now Imagine being a doctor/nurse and being able to treat them thanks to the government and people who work. But now you can't because the people who work have protested against you and you have had to privatize the NHS which used to help MILLIONS of people which now has a price? If it wasn't for the government prioritizing health care over the environment you most-likely wouldn't get the help you needed if you were ill. So the government does this to prevent protests against the NHS and to make sure people get the help they need.

    My thinking question:
    Q. Should they put a price on health?

    I used story-telling in this comment on my last answer about a point of view and showed both sides of an argument.
    Thanks ever so much for reading ~ Jolly_duck.

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    1. tom Tom @ the BNC
      jolly_duck's comment 11 Mar 2020

      Well done for responding to these questions in particular, jolly_duck. A great show of reasoning and open-mindedness too!

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  • Michael-Faraday-logo-250x250.jpg memorable_orchard | Michael Faraday School
    11 Mar 2020

    I may have a solution that would stop the NHS from failing. In our previous BNC discussion, our teacher introduced the topic of whether we should PRIVATISE, MODERNISE or SUPPORT HEALTHY CHOICES as these are one of the main big problems in the NHS. If you do not know what these mean here are the meanings:

    PRIVATISE- Should the NHS make parts/ALL of the NHS private?

    MODERNISE- Should the NHS improve the NHS' technology standard?

    PROMOTE HEALTHY CHOICES- If the NHS influences healthy choices, will that decrease the stress they have?

    My solution to all of this would be that they Privatise the NHS, making the NHS gain more money. When they have enough, they stop being private and then use the money to modernise the NHS equipment, which would then make it easier to promote healthy choices with the new systems the NHS would have. In conclusion, I think this would be a nice solution to cease the long-term problems the NHS has been experiencing.

    However...

    What could be the downsides of this solution?

    If they (the government) Privatise the NHS, homeless people would be suffering from horrible and terminal illnesses. This would also alter the name NHS to something else as to how can it be national when most of the nation can't afford to use it? If they were to modernise the NHS, it would take quite a while for it to happen. The shipping, installing and updating would mean that all NHS IT services would not be working, which would be affecting as some illnesses cannot wait as long as that to get treated. Therefore, modernising could put many lives on the line.

    In conclusion, I am not too sure whether my solution if beneficial for EVERYONE.

    What do you think?

    Thank you for reading.
    memorable_orchard.

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  • Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg determined_orange | Birchwood C of E Primary School
    11 Mar 2020

    Why I disagree with you:
    I think paying for health care should not happen because the people with a short amount of money would not be able to pay. It would not be fair for them because it is not their fault that they don't receive enough money and it is not their fault that they have a bad job. Many people in the UK are like this and it would cause a massive impact on everyone. This could cause disaster in many ways. I know that Doctors need their fair amount of money, but when you think about it Doctors do get lots of money and £60,000 to £100,000 to be precise. And even better, GPs earn from about £55,000 to £80,000 or more. come to think they have more than they need! What about Patients, they will have to pay more than they got and especially for diabetes patients because surgery, medicines, treatments all would cost as well. So many people in England will suffer because of one tiny change. This could affect lots of citizens of the UK. And also sugary drinks. As we all know, sugary drinks can cause diabetes and that would mean (if you had to pay for health care) more money to pay. As the number of people having diabetes grows more and more money would be paid. So you see, so many things can happen.

    Why I agree with you:
    I agree with you because this can help people who are struggling right now like doctors, nurses and the government. The government is out of control because they can't control the country. The NHS is worrying lots of people because they can not make a decision. It is tough because both sides of the argument are so important that they can not deny. If we did do it like the USA the government will be able to handle the country and doctors and nurses will get their money. The patients would have to cope but it would not last long. Thank you determined_orange.

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      1. Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg smart_parrot | Birchwood C of E Primary School
        stellar_forest's comment 13 Mar 2020

        Nobody likes the virus but we have to live with it I am not worried about it because I live in an area away from the main cases of coronervirus also because that I am 10 it will not effect me the same with other year 5 and year 6s across England.

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  • Lyons Hall Primary School energetic_aspect | Lyons Hall Primary School D
    12 Mar 2020

    there to meny people need help by the nhs

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    1. Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg smart_parrot | Birchwood C of E Primary School
      energetic_aspect's comment 13 Mar 2020

      Yes there is to many patients for the NHS to handle but the NHS should imploy more staff members so they won't fail the world

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  • Lyons Hall Primary School brilliant_satsuma | Lyons Hall Primary School D
    12 Mar 2020

    I think the NHS will only struggle if they set high goals that they cant reach but if they do set high goals then they need more staff to help.

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  • Lyons Hall Primary School warm_politics | Lyons Hall Primary School D
    12 Mar 2020

    we need to stop spending more money on electricity and pay for more medical stuff

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  • Lyons Hall Primary School proactive_leaves | Lyons Hall Primary School D
    12 Mar 2020

    I think the NHS isn't failing they just need more staff and more money but if lots of people get the corona virus it might be a bit more of a struggle.

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  • Lyons Hall Primary School loyal_turtle | Lyons Hall Primary School D
    12 Mar 2020

    why i disagree
    i do not think that we should pay for our illness because we didn"t course it like the corona virus people are dying because of a illness that we DIDNT COURS

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  • Lyons Hall Primary School stellar_forest | Lyons Hall Primary School D
    12 Mar 2020

    the horrible cronaviras and the NHS SHOULD SAVE More of the comuaty before it's hits essex and all fligts has been cancled it's in iran.

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  • Lyons Hall Primary School willing_agency | Lyons Hall Primary School D
    12 Mar 2020

    you have a good point there

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  • Streatham-Wells-logo-250x250.jpg unparalleled_writer | Streatham Wells Primary School
    12 Mar 2020

    I don’t think it would be fair to say that the NHS is failing as it is being pushed to the limits . They are nearly 100,000 people short so if anything they are doing a good job.
    Thank You,
    -unparalleled_writer

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  • Boutcher-logo-250x250.jpg gregarious_moon | Boutcher C of E Primary School B
    12 Mar 2020

    No. For me the NHS is not failing because they have done so much for us and we should be forever grateful. At the moment the amazing NHS is trying to find a cure for this dreadful Cornavirus and their life is at risked. We are very lucky to have this fantastic health service and they let us come for free. They have done so much for us and have help save many lives. I really want to give the NHS some support. The NHS are very committed and to me the feel like a family, always working together.

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  • Boutcher-logo-250x250.jpg adaptable_beetle | Boutcher C of E Primary School B
    12 Mar 2020

    I agree and disagree because the coronavirus is spreading around and more than one person has died from it and I agree because they have saved us through life threatening events

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  • St-Gregorys-logo-250x250.jpg energetic_cherry | St Gregory's Catholic Primary School
    13 Mar 2020

    I agree with adaptable beetle because the coronavirus is spreading around, and it is causing some schools to shut down,some cafes also. It made a big deal.Boris Johnson announced that it is a big risk for the schools in Kent to shut down and not only Kent but other places to. More than 2,000 people have the coronavirus around the UK.
    I thank you for your time. energetic_ cherry

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  • St-Gregorys-logo-250x250.jpg free_wallaby | St Gregory's Catholic Primary School
    13 Mar 2020

    I agree with adaptable beetle because the corona virus is spreading and many people have died from it . I know that the NHS is trying to do their best to stop people from dying .

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  • St-Gregorys-logo-250x250.jpg charismatic_location | St Gregory's Catholic Primary School
    13 Mar 2020

    think that they should doctors are risking there lives to stop us being sick and treating us well i think we (and the doctors) should stop and improve with drinking sugary drink because you can die with a heart attack or get hyper so this is my first reason why.
    the other reason why is because some staff could be silly and will may kill someone with a new illness (this is my opinion) so if you disagree then reply with my comment

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  • St-Gregorys-logo-250x250.jpg dazzling_blueberry | St Gregory's Catholic Primary School
    13 Mar 2020

    i agree that the NHS is good so you should go.

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  • Halsnead logo hopeful_city | Halsnead Primary School
    13 Mar 2020

    I 100% disagree with this post because the NHS should not be privatised as what will the people who are less wealthy will not get the right healthcare, so not fair!!

    #NHSforever

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