Are parents wages fare.
Some people day that there wages aren’t fair but they aren’t like a bin man all they would get is a little amount of money like 1000 pounds. The mean part is that a fire man gets realy good wages and all you need is to be a very nice person to risk your life to go into a building on fire.
I think a surgon should get the best wages for there saving a persons life and you need to be well edicated to know what to do.Also a vet needs to be very good and educated to do surgery on an animal with out killing the animal.The main thing on this time s a normal job like a building desiner they get enough to get a house and start a familie.Also a wage of a afletix is not much even though they represent a contry.
Comments (63)
An interesting and perhaps controversial post! Well done for starting a new discussion on an original topic and giving your opinion.
Do other people agree that firefighters just need to be nice people? Can anyone show some scepticism here? Do other people agree that an athlete should be paid more? I'm keen to see the comments on this post.
Elaine Primary School 21 Nov 2018
I think that parents wages (or just wages in general) are absolutely unfair because in some cases, people work relentlessly to receive the quantity of money that best suits them but in reality, they end up getting a wage which isn't enough for the hard effort they put in their job. On the other side, many people work carelessly to receive a large amount of money. This is ridiculous and should be resolved immediately.
What do you think?
The Ruth Gorse Academy 21 Nov 2018
I agree with this because wages have been really bad and some parents/carer struggle finding money so jobs which risks people's lives should have more money than the 0rdinary person
Bruche Primary School 21 Nov 2018
I also think the firemen should get a good wage because they are risking there lives trying to put out a fire while, saving the other people near the fire that they are putting out.
Ravenscroft Primary School 22 Nov 2018
What would happen if everyone got paid the same wages?
Ravenscroft Primary School 22 Nov 2018
how many money did you make when the financial crises happened?
Millbank Academy 22 Nov 2018
Fire fighters earn the money they get and play a huge role in the safety of the people. The problem here is the government not sharing out the money equally. The courage of fire fights reflect on the amount they are paid so if there were no fire fighters then our life would be at danger.
Millbank Academy 22 Nov 2018
I agree people work non-stop and do not get paid enough for all the great effort they do at work their wages need to increase because the more effort they use pays off so they should be paid a decent amount of money for all their hard work.
Millbank Academy 22 Nov 2018
The wages that people get are not fair for another reason some people work their hearts out and should be given better wages .
Millbank Academy 22 Nov 2018
I think a loyal should get the best wages because they have to go through 7 years of education
Cuddington Croft Primary School 23 Nov 2018
I think that people's wages are unjust, since it is mostly about how much time they spend on their work. Just because they worked for 8 hours doesn't mean they get £100, because they might have not put any effort into it; just because someone worked for 4 hours, doesn't mean they get only £50, as they could have put in an incredible amount of effort to try and earn enough for their family. Nevertheless, no-one knows how much hard work they had put in, so everyone gets paid according to the amount of time they did their job. Additionally, there are different types of jobs, like a rubbish man and doctor; these are both on completely opposite scales. A doctor may not work hard, because they have the skills to do it, but are paid more than the bin man, who works hard because he doesn’t need to be skilled for his job.
On the other hand, it is fair: doctors work hard to earn those skills in their early life and just because someone works for an hour or 2, doesn't mean they get more money, when someone working for 8 hours get paid less, since they could be new, and take a long time just to figure out where everything is.
In my opinion, all parents work hard to earn enough wages for their family.
What do you think;do you agree or disagree?
Beverley St Nicholas Primary School 23 Nov 2018
I think parents wages are unfair because somes parents have a lot of money and some don’t so I think that people that don’t have a lot of money so it’s fair.
Hi joyful_pineapple,
Lots of people will be given a salary over a year. The hours in a contract for full time work are often similar, but the salaries can be very different.
What decisions might a company make about how high or low a salary should be for an employee? What questions might they ask themselves when deciding?
For example, could anyone do this work?
Richmond Hill Academy 23 Nov 2018
The wages should be given according to the roles, responsibility and the knowledge about the job a person possesses. But there are cases where in some roles, the wages given are not sufficient than the risk involved in the job. For example, the army men who risk their life to protect their country are being paid less than the other jobs.There are also cases where as compared to the hard work and knowledge people are not getting appropriate money.
Interesting point! Why do you think there is this imbalance?
Richmond Hill Academy 23 Nov 2018 in reply to Tiff @ the BNC's comment
This imbalance exists because of many reasons i.e politics, lack of money and things being expensive
Great, can you give an example to prove your point for one of these suggestions?
Millbank Academy 23 Nov 2018
fireman risk their lives for us.How are they mean ??? Not anyone is going to risk their lives for someone in a building on fire and fire fighters have experience so the chance of them dying is very little from their experience but if just any person went with no experience then the chance of them dying is very high.
Millbank Academy 24 Nov 2018
Some people have a good job and get paid quite a lot. No one argues, but then comes the jobs, for example, a waitress who serves people and gives them food who almost get nothing. I mean, I know that an hour for a waitress is £6.13 but, imagine if they are in a hard moment and can only work 2 hours, they would only get £12.26 a day.
Is that fair?
Richmond Hill Academy 24 Nov 2018 in reply to Tiff @ the BNC's comment
For example if the company is not progressing well then they are forced to reduce the wages of the workers or are not being able to give appropriate wages. Another reason of imbalance in wages is due to the favoritism in the departments.
Streatham Wells Primary School 25 Nov 2018
How much money would you have made if you were in the financial crisis?
Bruche Primary School 25 Nov 2018
I don’t think parents wages are fair in my opinion , I think parents should be paid around 3 or 4 pound more than others , not to be unfair at all , but because they have children and not only have to pay for themselves but their little ones aswell , but as soon as the child turns around 11 they shouldn’t be payed for any longer , and of course people could just do this for the money , but if they use the money and don’t provide for the child , the child would be taken away , and they wouldn’t be payed anymore .
St Gregory's Catholic Primary School A 26 Nov 2018
I dissaggre with the 'fire fighters just need to be nice' because they have to risk their life and they could die . Bin men actually don't do that much ,every morning ,just grab a bin, empty it, put the bin back , JOB DONE !
Hi exhilarated globe. This is an interesting idea and one that the government agrees with you on. There is something called the Child Tax Credit - this is money that the government will give parents to help out with looking after a child. Like you said, they'll give you a different amount deepening on how old the child is and also depending on how much the parents earn.
Bruche Primary School 28 Nov 2018 in reply to Olivia @ the BNC's comment
Say a parent worked at a normal job like a shopping centre and a normal worker gets paid £50 a week I think that a parent should get like like £5-£10 more
Ormiston Bushfield Academy 28 Nov 2018
I do not agree with you. My dad was a firefighter and he sacrificed alot for the fire service. Being a firefighter he had to sacrifice a lot. He was incredibly brave to save other peoples lives. He had to risk his life to save others.
Moving on I think that parents wages are fair. If for example you had a parent that was a bin man and a parent that was a GP then the GP would get paid more because they had to train harder and go to university where as a bin man would not have to train as hard. Therefore I think that parents wages are fair.
However if you meant it in a way that those people who save lives should get paid more, then I partially agree with you as the services should get paid more than those jobs of a lower standard. However you must remember that all jobs have a critical role because if you had nobody being a binman then there would be a pile of rubbish gathering causing big problems so I think that all jobs are important.
Notley Green Primary School B 29 Nov 2018
I don't think that there fare because people work for about 24 hours and just get paid like £100 and that just unfair
There are laws in the UK that make sure that companies have to pay a minimum wage to their employees. Can you find out some information about what the minimum wage is and share it with us?
Boston Spa Academy 29 Nov 2018
I really like this post and totally agree but I also think police should get a great wage aswell because they are helping to make our streets safe from crime but wages would also be an interesting debate
Ormiston Bushfield Academy 29 Nov 2018
I agree with your point wages are definitely unfair and imbalanced. I think that it should be based on the roles and responsibility. For example, firefighters risk their lives every day saving lives yet footballers get paid more. Firefighters are paid £46,000 annually where footballers are paid £50,000 a week!
Although surgeons should get payed quite a lot I don't think there should get paid the most. I think it should be based on how much they do on an everyday basis.
Notley Green Primary School B 29 Nov 2018
I agree that doctors should get more money but being a fireman must be hard too. You have to be trained to put out a fire carefully
The Ruth Gorse Academy 30 Nov 2018
Parents wages are fair, but really it depends on what kind of job they have. For example the average that a cleaner gets paid per year is 10,580 pounds. But on the other hand the average a paramedic gets paid per year is 25,307 pounds. So smaller jobs evidently get paid less than larger jobs which involve saving somebody's life. There is only a difference of 14,727 pounds between these amounts.
Some people might not think that their parents wages are fair because, their parents might work really hard at their job but not get paid at what they should. As mentioned before it really depends on what kind of job they have.
Overall, I believe that parents wages are fair.
The amounts of money are from these websites...
https://www.payscale.com/research/UK/Job=Paramedic/Salary
https://www.payscale.com/research/UK/Job=Cleaner/Hourly_Rate
The Ruth Gorse Academy 30 Nov 2018
You've also got to remember that parents have to pay tax to the government.
The Ruth Gorse Academy 30 Nov 2018 in reply to fearless_conversation's comment
Why would footballers get that much money?
That's not fair at all. Firefighters have to risk their lives, but all footballers do is kick a ball about!
Some parents wages are not fair at all...
Hi balanced_singer - great research! I'm interested in what you said about a cleaner only earning £10,580, as when I clicked through on your link, it said the average salary for a cleaner is £11,514 - £21,082. Make sure your research matches your argument!
Do you think that someone's wage should reflect the amount of training they have to do to do that job? For instance, a paramedic has to study for a degree or diploma, while you wouldn't need that to be a cleaner.
The Ruth Gorse Academy 30 Nov 2018 in reply to Claire @ the BNC's comment
Claire, I think that wages should reflect on training,degrees and diplomas etc.
Because that person worked hard for their diploma so that they could get a good job that they enjoy. But a cleaner doesn't have to go through that and they still get a fair amount of money! So if a job like cleaner is so easy why do they get that much money per year? Now that you've made me think about it in a different way I think parents wages aren't fair.
PS you sent the same comment twice.
Notley Green Primary School B 30 Nov 2018
i agree and like the fact you have shared your opinion
The Ruth Gorse Academy 01 Dec 2018 in reply to balanced_singer's comment
You can't say the difference is ONLY £14,727 because that amount is one and a half times greater than the cleaners wage in the first place
The Ruth Gorse Academy 01 Dec 2018 in reply to balanced_singer's comment
Footballers get paid a lot because tons of people like football. I don't want to offend anyone but I don't think people would pay money to see a fire fighter put out flames. I think they would rather see a footballer kick about. It's all to do with a sense of belonging- football is in club. This means that more people would want to join in and pay to watch football because one of our primal instincts (things that we evolved to learn) is tribalism( being in a group). Maybe if fire fighters were in more groups than 'West Yorkshire Fire Department' and had competitions available to the public then they would get paid more.
Boston Spa Academy 02 Dec 2018 in reply to modest_fig's comment
I also think people like police should get better wages than others also hi fellow news club friend see you on wednesday
I'm unsure about your reasoning here, as I don't think we have to choose one or the other. I think their pay is measured on different things, not entertainment. You're right that footballers get paid lots as they entertain people, but the reason why firefighters should be paid more would not be because they're entertaining. That's not the purpose of their job! What are the arguments for increasing the pay of firefighters?
Evelyn Street Primary School 03 Dec 2018
I really found this quite interesting maybe girls
Evelyn Street Primary School 03 Dec 2018
Sorry I messed up. I was supposed to say, I would like you to possibly cover the issue in Myanmar?!
Bruntcliffe Academy 03 Dec 2018 in reply to marvellous_dusk's comment
Firemen risk their lives so they should get a rise in their wages so they can support their families because they might lose their lives so the families won't get enough income .
Evelyn Street Primary School 03 Dec 2018
Looking at the first paragraph, I don't think the firefighters just need to be nice, but they need to be incredibly BRAVE too.
Bruche Primary School 04 Dec 2018
I think that there earnings are not fare because men earn more than women and it should be equal so they have the same amount of money . Also men and women should get more money when they work.( but not all the work places should get the same amount of money the easy jobs should get the same amount now and the hard jobs should get more money).
Upton Cross Primary School 04 Dec 2018
A surgeon does not exactly mean they save lives so it does not mean exactly to get more 💰. I was listening to the radio and it was talking about how annoying it is as having a person in hospital and they need special help but no one helped them
Hillcrest Academy 04 Dec 2018
its not fair if people don't get paid a lot because at least they are putting effort in it
Should how much you get paid be linked to effort put in to a job?
Ormiston Bushfield Academy 05 Dec 2018
Parents in need of money already get enough money that's what benefits are for! As for people less in need children already can be afforded with low pay jobs as the government already pays for health care and schooling for them. The only costs that need to be covered by the parents is food and clothes and they are moderately easy to pay for with a low paying job. If the parent has no housing social housing already covers it. Unless they are really in need the government should not have to use benefits or use social housing. Nevertheless the government and charities are already working hard to produce solutions and many have already been put into place. The UN has put goals into place to remove poverty and starvation/hunger in their sustainable development goals that will hopefully be for filled by 2030.
Evelyn Street Primary School 05 Dec 2018
Maybe you could add a little more information? It's a good start though.
Boutcher C of E Primary School 05 Dec 2018 in reply to incredible_seagull's comment
Personally, I have sympathy for parents who might have trouble bringing up their kids with a secure back round. However, parents who can easily find work if they tried, shouldn't get sympathy or any extra money - this wouldn't be fair. I believe that every person who has tried to find a job will have a reason for not being employed, and if that is their fault, then we can consider that REALLY, it's not very fair for them to recive money from the government. However, stupid reasons that aren't your fault (maybe skin colour...) We should try to help out. I am often confused why people don't go and try to get a job, and after considering that, I came up with some reasons.
• People might not want to be busy and have to work SO hard they can never see their children
• Jobs they are offered might not appeal to them ( though I would be grateful for ANY work in SOME people's situations.
• They might not get on with the bosses of person in charge making it hard for people to work there.
What do you think?
Cuddington Croft Primary School 06 Dec 2018
I think that a firefighter needs to be a nice person because he saves lives and needs to be kind to do that.
Boutcher C of E Primary School 07 Dec 2018 in reply to shrewd_cat's comment
I agree... But a fire fighter is quite a heroic job, and people might do it to get a heroic reputation.
Hanson Academy 10 Dec 2018
i agree with the fact that if you are a doctor the you should earn more money because yo are saving someones life whereas if u r a bin man you are still doing good for the community but it is an easy job so doctors shud earn more that bin men
Hanson Academy 10 Dec 2018
i think parents wages are unfair because some people get poor wages whereas some people get lots of money.
Hanson Academy 10 Dec 2018
in my opinion if doctors went on strike people would die but if bin men went on strike it would take a while to notice the effect so i thing wages for jobs should be according to the effectiveness
New Horizons Children's Academy 10 Dec 2018
Firefighters don't need to be nice because if they aren't kind they could still get the job done. If a figherman was nice they might be too nice and when a person is afraid of jumpimg down from a building they could be too leaniate and the person might be get hurt. Also if a firefighter is training others and they're too nice they might not be able to teach the right things.
Bruche Primary School 11 Dec 2018
I strongly agree
The Ruth Gorse Academy 11 Dec 2018
After reading everyones comments, I am in agreement with balanced_singer and I disagree with affable_weaver . I strongly believe footballers should never be paid more than doctors, nurses, police, firefighters, teachers and even carers. In my opinion, I consider footballers and sports professional jobs like ‘leisure jobs’. They are already lucky to be earning a living just by playing their dream sports by simply being good at it. Surely professional sports people do not have the same level of stress and long working hours than doctors, nurses and firefighters? Their jobs keep people alive and requires years of training.
I feel salary should reflect the amount of training/education as well as how risky the job is and how much that particular job is needed in society, unless you own your own business then its a different matter. However I would consider that all ‘icky’ jobs such as cleaning (just think of filthy toilets) and underground sewage workers, t’ should be paid a lot more than they do. I have heard that some football clubs pay cleaners a poor wage, which is so unjust considering the amount of footballers get!
I think all “icky” jobs should be rewarded with a good salary, so that workers feel valued for their services, even though it’s unpleasant they would be encouraged to do a good job. However I have seen TV programmes showing so called ‘extreme professional cleaners’ that actually do enjoy doing this type of work! These are no ordinary cleaners-they can spruce up the most filthiest, disgusting, vomit inducing homes you will ever see! So these special cleaners should be paid a fortune; they definitely get my respect! Thinking about it, it does make you mindful about not leaving mess around especially in public places because you really don’t want to give cleaners a hard time of it all.
Why do footballers get such high wages? Think about football as a business, not just an activity.
The Ruth Gorse Academy 12 Dec 2018
Footballers get paid a lot because there is a huge demand for the best players. The best players earn the club a lot of money through ticket sales, merchandise and broadcasting rights. Football is a business so they can choose to pay whatever price they want for the players due to supply and demand whereas doctors, nurses and teachers are paid by the government and they dictate the salaries for all jobs that are run by the state. Nevertheless, for many people, they will still see the difference of salary to be unfair despite it being an unfair comparison.
Graveney School 12 Dec 2018
I do not agree: I think that firemen and women should be paid well as they risk their lives for other people's. You said that you believe surgeons should get paid the most because they save people's lives, but theis is exactly what firefighters do. They go into places which are on fire, at their own risk, so others can live. Also, firepeople have to go through a lot of training to become qualififed to do their jobs, which takes a long time, and is very strenuous, as it involves much heavy work in fire and extreme heat. I actually think that they should be paid more than surgeons because surgeons do not put themselves in danger when doing their jobs. However, people may argue that surgeons have had to study for a long time to get their jobs, and so deserve more credit and pay.
I think that you are right when you say that athletes should be paid more than they are. British Olympic athletes with podium potential get paid just £23,000 to £40,000 per year. Athletes at podium level would get paid up to £60,000 annually. An athlete of non-podium level would earn around a mere £22-24 thousand pounds every year. I think that they should be paid more than this because they, as well as representing their country, which is a very important and sometimes strenuous job, also keep many thousands of peopel entertained and happy. In addition to this, sportspeople put a huge amount of effort both into their competitions and into their training, so I think that they should be paid more; they put in more time and effort than many jobs, training many hours each week.
Overall, I think that worker's wages should be calculated not on how much money they generate for themselves, their company or the economy, but on how they benefit the community, how much effort they put in and and how much knowledge is needed for the job. Also, I think that wages should be calculated according to how important the job is, how much responsibility the person with in has, and how well the person performs their job.
Websites:
https://www.glassdoor.co.uk/Salary/UK-Sport-Salaries-E601837.htm?filter.jobTitleFTS=Athlete
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-income-of-a-British-Olympic-athlete
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