Is it always fair to do what the majority want?

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Is it always fair to do what the majority want?

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  • Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg calm_computer | Birchwood C of E Primary School
    25 Feb 2019

    No because sometimes the majority doesn't represent who the vote affects. For example, in my class there are lots more girls than boys. If there was a vote to ban football, the likely result would be a yes because lots of the girls in my class dont like football. This would be unfair as it's mostly boys that play football. It would be fairer if there was the same amount of boys as girls. Most of the time though it's fair to do what the majority want as long as everyone gets a say.

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    1. Olivia-Avatar.jpg Olivia @ the BNC
      calm_computer's comment 25 Feb 2019

      Well done for giving a good example here to support your point of view. Can you be open-minded and suggest a reason why the football ban (in your case) should still be enforced?

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    2. Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg entertaining_strawberry | Birchwood C of E Primary School
      calm_computer's comment 25 Feb 2019

      I agree to this concept, but it might not matter about the gender. Most of the time it is who votes, not if they are a girl or boy. But if they were split into equal groups based on their gender, some people won't get their say and could get offended for not having the rights.

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    3. Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg jubilant_horse | Birchwood C of E Primary School
      calm_computer's comment 25 Feb 2019

      It doesn't really matter about the gender. If their was a big difference between the number of vote it would be fair but if it was something like 49% and 51% then that's when the thinking comes in. By that I mean when you really think why what your voting for is the best for everyone.

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  • Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg buzzing_atom | Birchwood C of E Primary School
    25 Feb 2019

    in my opinion i think yes because say if the percentage was 89% and the other percent was 11% that would mean the highest percentage would win.but if there was only a little difference like 49% and the other percent was 51% that means there would be slight issues with what happens.

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  • Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg plucky_cat | Birchwood C of E Primary School
    25 Feb 2019

    I think yes because its just the same as voting and then you can see which one had the higher % and you pick that but some people dont think that you should do it because its not fair. I think it is all about which is higher and then you go from the results what is came up with. For example if one was 89% ad the other is 13% obviously 89% will get the choice of winning

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  • Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg entertaining_strawberry | Birchwood C of E Primary School
    25 Feb 2019

    In my opinion, doing what the majority want can't always result in fair outcome. For example, if a large amount of people vote one thing whilst a small amount vote the other, would most likely lead to fair results. But if the votes were almost the same - example: 51% and 49% - the results would't be fair and most likely end up in bad consequences. To wrap up this idea, a large difference would lead to better results than only a bit.

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  • Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg jolly_frog | Birchwood C of E Primary School
    25 Feb 2019

    NO because they are not the of you and they can not tell you what to do

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  • Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg noble_moth | Birchwood C of E Primary School
    25 Feb 2019

    Yes because more of the popyoualitea ether agree or disagree but if it is not a fair the vote nus not count

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  • Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg happy_sparrow | Birchwood C of E Primary School
    25 Feb 2019

    In my opinion voting works as the most voters on a decision wins. But either way it would not be fair because they both want different things. It will never be fair because only one will win and other people that voted the other one wouldn't have got what they wanted. After a while some people may have switched to thinking that the one chosen was much better than the one that wasn't chosen. To be honest that's fine because it was chosen so they do get what they truly wanted after all. But for some people it will never be fair!

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  • Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg joyous_potato | Birchwood C of E Primary School
    25 Feb 2019

    no because it not far on the magectially

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    1. Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg joyous_potato | Birchwood C of E Primary School
      joyous_potato's comment 22 May 2019

      true because mogollity have lots of stoof to do like see what schools have put to do a comment to give them a star award and the peopl will be proudof what they have done to earn a star

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  • Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg joyful_dinosaur | Birchwood C of E Primary School
    25 Feb 2019

    I think no because it wont be right also it might not be fair.Every one should have a say even though they didn't vote.I also think yes because the vote might be eqaul.

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  • Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg honest_globe | Birchwood C of E Primary School
    25 Feb 2019

    I think no because if we voted for a new headteacher we might pick one that is not good like we might not make a good decision for the future and another example if there was more boys in the class and we voted to ban football most people would say no because most of the boys might of liked football and voted to not ban it and everyone that did vote to ban it would not be happy that the vote did not succeed.

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  • Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg smart_parrot | Birchwood C of E Primary School
    25 Feb 2019

    sometimes it is fair to do what the majority says but sometimes it isn't because if 12 people say that football should be band and 9 people say it shouldn't the people that say it should have a right to vote

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  • Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg jolly_frog | Birchwood C of E Primary School
    25 Feb 2019

    some b0ys like football i think foot ball not should not be baned

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  • Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg eager_orange | Birchwood C of E Primary School
    25 Feb 2019

    i think that things are not always fair all times because some people are not aloud to vote and they would like to and they others can its unfair and they would like to but they can't

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  • Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg calm_computer | Birchwood C of E Primary School
    25 Feb 2019

    I suppose it's important that people see democracy work so that if the majority vote a certain way it should be followed through. I just think it's important to keep in mind who the vote effects.

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  • The-Ruth-Gorse-logo-250x250.jpg balanced_singer | The Ruth Gorse Academy
    25 Feb 2019

    It is not always fair to do what the majority want because, sometimes what the majority want could be dangerous and unreasonable. So, if we went with the other option it would be a lot easier to deal with; however, this may not always be the case. Also, the people who did not win the vote might start riots and protests. These small fights may result in larger ones. The majority may not have chosen something with a lot of positive outcomes. Like in Brexit. The majority voted on leaving the EU, so the government acted upon that. But we haven't been seeing a lot of positive change just yet.
    On the other hand, doing what the majority wants could be fair because, it's what the country has said. Furthermore, in one of the options there could be a lot of positive changes, but in the other option there may not be a lot of definite positive things or they have just a lot of negative possibilities. So if the majority voted on the positive option, it would be beneficial to the country.
    Overall, I do not think that doing what the majority wants is always fair, because it may be a very bad decision. Therefore, other people may start getting very angry.

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  • Streatham-Wells-logo-250x250.jpg charismatic_chameleon | Streatham Wells Primary School A
    25 Feb 2019

    I think no because those people might not be very well educated about those things so they don't think about and might not know about what they are voting about. If there is people who are educated about what the vote is for and they actually know what they are doing, then yes. But some people might make the wrong decision not knowing the consequences that will follow, and that isn't a good outcome, because even if they make a good desicion than they will not know why they made it and wha good will come because of it and what would of happened if they hadn't made that decision. That is why we should educate young children ( like me! ) about the going on's of the this world. Learning at a young age isimportant as we are going to be the new generation and we can grow up to be better people.

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    1. Tiff-Avatar.jpg Tiff @ the BNC
      charismatic_chameleon's comment 26 Feb 2019

      Who would decide if people had enough knowledge to vote on a issue. Could you decide to hold a vote and then try to make sure everyone has access to the important information?

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    2. Arnhem-Wharf-logo-250x250.jpg smart_journalist | Arnhem Wharf Primary School
      charismatic_chameleon's comment 26 Feb 2019

      But what if they were educated and they still made that decision?

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      1. Streatham-Wells-logo-250x250.jpg charismatic_chameleon | Streatham Wells Primary School A
        smart_journalist's comment 26 Feb 2019

        Well at least it would still be an educated decision and they would know what would happen because of their decision. Anyway, their decision is an opinion.

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  • Arnhem-Wharf-logo-250x250.jpg smart_journalist | Arnhem Wharf Primary School
    26 Feb 2019

    NO. Even if the majority want to do something it may be something unjust or racist so others had to be treated in a unfair way. in the time of the wind rush black people were to be treated in a specific way making a split between white people and black people. For all these years we've been trying to prevent it from happening again but people have been writing things......

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  • Hornsey-logo-250x250.jpg kind_buffalo | Hornsey School for Girls
    27 Feb 2019

    i think it is not fair because although there are compulsory rules you have to follow and can not change I think people have the right to speak what is in your mind.

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  • Hornsey-logo-250x250.jpg kind_buffalo | Hornsey School for Girls
    27 Feb 2019

    and feel how they feel as long as you are not breaking the rules.

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  • Richmond-Hill-logo-250x250.jpg outstanding_passionfruit | Richmond Hill Academy
    28 Feb 2019

    No because the majority of people might vote to do a bad thing but the least might be doing a good
    thing but nobody will listen to the leas amount because every one will pick the majority.

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  • Richmond-Hill-logo-250x250.jpg balanced_artist | Richmond Hill Academy
    28 Feb 2019

    In my opinion, it is not always fair that the majority always gets the vote as there might just be more people that team up together and all decide to vote for the same thing. The other group might split their vote and then they don't have as much power as the group together. An example could be when you vote to watch a film. Yet you cannot vote in a dictatorship and then the majority do not get their choice.

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  • Richmond-Hill-logo-250x250.jpg committed_physics | Richmond Hill Academy
    28 Feb 2019

    I think it is not fair since many people vote but get disappointed from the results because their saying does not work. People can vote for the wrong thing and they might win by the majority. For example, in a class there may be more boys than girls, if there was a decision to ban makeup the boys would win because they hate makeup and they will have an advantage against the girls. This proves that we can only get a fair decision if there is an equal amount of the public voting. So my personal opinion will be, NO, I don't agree that majority should win.

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    1. balloon.png Rose @ the BNC
      committed_physics's comment 28 Feb 2019

      Committed_physics you make a good point that sometimes minorities can lose out if everyone does what the majority wants. If you don't think it's always fair to do what the majority wants, can you think of any other ways for decisions to be made?

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  • Ravenscroft-logo-250x250.jpg wonderful_seahorse | Ravenscroft Primary School
    28 Feb 2019

    No, because some people want to do other thing than do what the majority thinks. So that's why I think its not fair.

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  • Ravenscroft-logo-250x250.jpg magical_crab | Ravenscroft Primary School
    28 Feb 2019

    I think no because sometimes majority represent who the vote effects

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  • Ravenscroft-logo-250x250.jpg adventurous_painting | Ravenscroft Primary School
    28 Feb 2019

    I think no because sometimes people need to hear what YOU think and you can be heard. It does not matter if you can't decide on a decision. You can not be satisfied without something that you want.

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  • The-Ruth-Gorse-logo-250x250.jpg creative_sparrow | The Ruth Gorse Academy
    28 Feb 2019

    No, because what if the majority of the group say we are going to stop drinking water, even though it’s the only option to stay alive. My analogy seem silly but sometimes people can do silly things without thinking things through. For example, the majority within a gang will think that carrying a knife is good thing, therefore everyone in a gang will follow the majority and will also carry a knife.

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  • Michael-Faraday-logo-250x250.jpg extraordinary_thought | Michael Faraday School
    28 Feb 2019

    I think no because if we just get on with the theme or thing that got the most votes then people that do not agree could be very angry and they could do things like argue with other people, fight, protest and do other negative actions. Also, some of the people who voted for the winning opinion/thing might not really know about the winning opinion/theme/thing and that will effect the vote.

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  • St-Gregorys-logo-250x250.jpg happy_maths | St Gregory's Catholic Primary School C
    01 Mar 2019

    yes because you mean by the majority of people is the public and we live in a country that have democracy so everyone can vote and also have a chance to speak.

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  • John-Ray-logo-250x250.jpg active_melon | John Ray Junior School
    01 Mar 2019

    No because you should have your own opinions

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  • John-Ray-logo-250x250.jpg tranquil_donkey | John Ray Junior School
    01 Mar 2019

    Well I think you can vote for whatever you want

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  • St-Gregorys-logo-250x250.jpg idealistic_cat | St Gregory's Catholic Primary School C
    01 Mar 2019

    Yes, because if we do not pick the majority, there wouldn't be any point of voting. For example, if in a class of 13, 12 people wanted to go to the zoo and 1 person wanted to got to the park. There would be no point in going to the park because the majority of the class didn't want to go there, as a result, the children would not enjoy themselves. But, if you went to the zoo, the children would enjoy their trip and that one child who wanted to go to the park will have a good experience of the zoo.

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  • John-Ray-logo-250x250.jpg tranquil_donkey | John Ray Junior School
    01 Mar 2019

    As long as it’s not illegal

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  • St-Gregorys-logo-250x250.jpg free_panda_bear | St Gregory's Catholic Primary School C
    01 Mar 2019

    Most of the time yes but if the higher voted in may be racist or sexist they may even be rude about the other politician

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  • St-Gregorys-logo-250x250.jpg buzzing_wilddog | St Gregory's Catholic Primary School C
    01 Mar 2019

    I am not sure because some people may think of an illegal or violent suggestion, so that makes me unsure ...

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  • St-Gregorys-logo-250x250.jpg straightforward_nature | St Gregory's Catholic Primary School C
    01 Mar 2019

    In my opinion,I think if the majority of the public wants the prime minister to do something illegal then she/he shouldn't do it .But,if it isn't then it's fair that everyone gets a chance to speak

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  • Noel-Park-logo-250x250.jpg fearless_wolverine | Noel Park Primary School
    01 Mar 2019

    On one hand, I think that it is fair to do what the majority want, especially if that is voted for. A democracy literally means rule by the people, so it is important to listen to what people want. The whole point of voting is to find out what the people want, so by ignoring this you are making the whole thing pointless.

    On the other hand, it might not always be fair. For example, in the case of Brexit 51.89% of the electorate voted to leave, which is only a tiny majority. To disregard 48.11% of votes seems very unfair!

    It is important to make sure that everyone is provided with the knowledge and understanding to make an informed vote, and this may not always happen. Sometimes there is a low turnout for a vote or an election where only certain groups of people bother to vote. In these cases, it might not be as far to listen to the majority and ignore the rest.

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  • Noel-Park-logo-250x250.jpg terrific_leopard | Noel Park Primary School
    01 Mar 2019

    In my opinion its not fair because the majority of people that voted for something could only be by a little extra for eg. if you won a vote by only 54% lots of people would be annoyed because 46% of people voted for something diffirent.

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  • Noel-Park-logo-250x250.jpg cultured_atom | Noel Park Primary School
    01 Mar 2019

    I think its not fair because other people have the right to speak out and some people take hours out of their day to to vote for a really important thing and then after they get the decision which the other people wanted and voted for , it feels like your vote has just been thrown away.

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  • Arnhem-Wharf-logo-250x250.jpg quiet_horse | Arnhem Wharf Primary School
    02 Mar 2019

    In a AN ideal world, elections should be two things: free and fair. Every adult, with a few sensible exceptions, should be able to vote for a candidate of their choice, and each single vote should be worth the same.

    Ensuring a free vote is a matter for the law. Making elections fair is more a matter for mathematicians. They have been studying voting systems for hundreds of years, looking for sources of bias that distort the value of individual votes, and ways to avoid them. Along the way, they have turned up many paradoxes and surprises. What they have not done is come up with the answer. With good reason: it probably doesn’t exist.
    The many democratic electoral systems in use around the world attempt to strike a balance between mathematical fairness and political considerations such as accountability and the need for strong, stable government. Take first-past-the-post or “plurality” voting, which used for national elections in the US, Canada, India – and the UK, which goes to the polls next week. Its principle is simple: each electoral division elects one representative, the candidate who gained the most votes.

    This system scores well on stability and accountability, but in terms of mathematical fairness it is a dud. Votes for anyone other than the winning candidate are disregarded. If more than two parties with substantial support contest a constituency, as is typical in Canada, India and the UK, a candidate does not have to get anything like 50 per cent of the votes to win, so a majority of votes are “lost”.

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    1. Olivia-Avatar.jpg Olivia @ the BNC
      quiet_horse's comment 04 Mar 2019

      This is not your own work. Please make sure everything on the Hub is written in your own words, otherwise it will not be approved!

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  • Arnhem-Wharf-logo-250x250.jpg quiet_horse | Arnhem Wharf Primary School
    02 Mar 2019

    No because sometimes the majority doesn't represent who the vote affects. For example, in my class there are more Muslims then Christians. If there ever was (which is highly unlikely) a vote to go to a mosque or a church, mosque might win because most of the class are Muslims. It would be better if their were the same amount of Muslims as there are Christians(in any other religion too). Most of the time though it's fair to do what the majority want as long as everyone gets a say.

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  • Arnhem-Wharf-logo-250x250.jpg shining_brain | Arnhem Wharf Primary School
    05 Mar 2019

    it is fair because if you let the least amount of people happy you are making more people sad and you should have more people happy then more people sad

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  • Graveney-logo-250x250.jpg blessed_computer | Graveney School
    06 Mar 2019

    I think the answer is yes most of the time but other times no because it is sometimes very clear that a referendum was tampered with. Some examples include speculated Russian interference in the 2016 US election and maybe even Brexit, as I discussed in my post about Fake News. These things may skew the results so they would be incorrect. However, I think it is wrong to just decide on the opposite decision that the country decided. What I think should be done instead is to propose a second referendum, as we have seen with Brexit hypothetically. But the problem is the rigging of elections is not always detectable, which might defeat the purpose but I think it is a good idea for the most part. If that were not the case, I think it would be wrong because it would not be proper democracy so the majority would have less control.

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  • Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg crafty_brain | Birchwood C of E Primary School
    07 Mar 2019

    it is not fair to do what the majority of people want. You have to convince people to change their mind or explain why they shouldn't change their mind. If you can't convince them to change their minds or if they can't change your mind you have to agree to disagree, but you shouldn't do what the majority always does - you should stick to what you believe.

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    1. Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg joyous_potato | Birchwood C of E Primary School
      crafty_brain's comment 15 Jun 2019

      It is not fair and good 👍 comment🌺🌈🏆🌟🌠🔑🔎

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  • Birchwood-logo-250x250.jpg joyous_potato | Birchwood C of E Primary School
    17 Jun 2019

    No because some times majority doesen't represents the vote affects.

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