VIDEO: Democracy Speech

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  • Tiff-Avatar.jpg Tiff @ the BNC 03 Apr 2019

    Hi amicable_tornado,

    Well done for using examples to explain your points!

    A few questions for you and other BNC members:
    1) You suggest only the leave voters were uninformed during the 2016 referendum campaign. Is this accurate? Did remain voters know everything needed to make a sound decision?

    2) The Icelandic example you gave had a very clear majority in their vote. What are the consequences if the vote is much closer, like with the Brexit referendum?

    3) CHALLENGE QUESTION
    Have you heard of 'deliberative democracy'? What is this and is it a good idea?

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  • The-Ruth-Gorse-logo-250x250.jpg balanced_singer
    The Ruth Gorse Academy 03 Apr 2019

    Although the leave voters were uninformed during the referendum, the people who voted to stay were as well. One of the reasons why I think this is because even the people who put up campaigns may not know the full story either. They may only think that what they do is correct. An example of this was when Boris Johnston (who was part of the leave campaign) said that, "There will continue to be free trade." However, since Theresa May hasn't found a deal with the rest of the EU and that MPs haven't agreed with one yet, we may leave with no deal and not be able to trade freely. Another thing that leave voters probably didn't know was that David Cameron would resign and that there would be a general election for a new prime minister. Furthermore, the leave side probably didn't know that the process for Brexit would have taken that long. This is because in the campaign the people giving the information need to make it seem really good so that everyone votes for that.
    The remain voters probably didn't know, that if they won, UKIP would have continued to be a political threat. If this did happen David Cameron would have found it difficult to control his party since he has a small party that's in a coalition. Even if the remains had won, there would have still been commotion inside and outside of the conservative party because of some of the EU rules.
    Source: https://www.ft.com/content/c5980088-57bb-3809-bc8f-0fcfd1665e00

    If the vote count was dangerously close or very close to 50% each, it may or may not result in a second referendum. I think that this is because if you want to focus on what the government voted on, it may have not been as close. So, instead of not being democratic and doing what they want: they could have a second referendum to finalize the choice.
    This could be a consequence because if the majority changes the second time around, other people might become unhappy with this and demand a second referendum. Although this is not exactly the same as the referendum we had, it has similarities. One is that people are unhappy that Brexit is taking so long so some are wanting a second referendum, in the hope that we would get a clear majority wanting to stay in the EU.

    Deliberative democracy is when you argue about something to someone else in a formal manner. So, it's like indirect democracy and direct democracy at the same time. There is no general election or referendum involved; however, it's not the government that makes the decision, it's us. When I read about it, it reminded me of the activity that we did in one of our sessions - the one where we had the debate. Although, we were acting as parliament, in reality, we were citizens. I was on the side that thought all decisions should be decided through indirect democracy, but in the end, I decided that it's best if we had direct democracy.
    I think that deliberative democracy is a good thing because some people may have some knowledge about the issue that you don't and therefore convince you to change or stay on the same side. Furthermore, you get the convenience of a vote but you get to have the debate from indirect democracy at the same time. However, some may think not. This is because it's not as concise as a referendum, and sometimes if there is a debate it can result in a larger argument with people who only think what they say is right. But I think it's a good idea.
    Source: https://www.britannica.com/topic/deliberative-democracy

    I really liked your speech as well, amicable_tornado : )

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  • Olivia-Avatar.jpg Olivia @ the BNC 03 Apr 2019 in reply to balanced_singer's comment

    Excellent answers that you have clearly thought through. Well done! Thanks for giving your reasons on why deliberative democracy could work. What was the outcome in your classroom of the parliamentary debate?

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  • The-Ruth-Gorse-logo-250x250.jpg balanced_singer
    The Ruth Gorse Academy 03 Apr 2019 in reply to Olivia @ the BNC's comment

    The majority voted on all decisions to be decided through direct democracy. However, 4/14 decided that it's best that decisions are decided through indirect democracy.

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