Was there an outcome to the first Trump vs Biden debate?

Donald Trump and Joe Biden are the two candidates running to be the American President.

On Tuesday 29th September, Trump and Biden had their first debate.

It was very childish, with both candidates arguing, and interrupting each other.

But when it was over, what was the outcome?

Who won?

Was there an outcome at all?

You can see the highlights of the debate here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54350538

Donald Trump made some interesting points about the American economy whilst he has been in charge, but Joe Biden also countered that by pointing out that America has had 200,000 deaths from COVID-19 so far.

Under Donald Trump, Joe Biden pointed out, America has become;

"Weaker, sicker, poorer, more divided and more violent."

This implies that America has been doing very badly over the last four years, under Donald Trump's leadership.

A lot of people would agree with that; the fact that Donald Trump has made America worse as a whole. They could back this up with the Black Lives Matter protests worldwide; sparked by police brutality in the United States.

But other people would disagree; for instance, the fact that the American economy has actually been doing better than a lot of countries over Lockdown, and Trump has kept the death toll from coronavirus in America as low as possible.

Trump then countered this comment with;

'"Our country is coming back incredibly well, setting records as it does it."'

This implies that with Trump in the White House, America has been getting better overall, and setting records. A lot of people could turn this around by saying;

"Well, yes we have been setting records, but not good ones."

This is evident, as America has the most cases of COVID-19 in the world and the most deaths. But people could also say that America has got the furthest in the world as to developing a vaccine for coronavirus, and they have the most life-saving drugs.

After about 45 minutes of heated discussion and interruptions, the debate came to an end.

So after all that, who won?

Some people think Biden won, such as The Guardian's David Smith who said:

"Donald Trump ensured Tuesday’s first US presidential debate was the worst in American history, a national humiliation... Facing this asymmetric bullying, Biden showed self-control and stood his ground."

And MSNBC's Joy Reid who described Donald Trump as:

"an angry autocrat who's desperate to hang on to power."

But other people think trump won, for example, Rosa Prince said in The Telegraph:

"Mr Trump debated as he has governed: with an unshakeable confidence… the Democratic candidate floundered where almost any of his former rivals for the nomination would have flourished."

And David Bossie of Fox News who said:

"The president gave a commanding performance… Biden still has no answer about why he failed to accomplish in 47 years what President Trump has delivered for the American people in just 47 months."

After all this, I do not think there was an outcome to the debate; both candidates were squabbling, and in general, did not get their point across. These are both grown men who know how to debate, setting a bad example to the public about being President.

I am not sure how either of these men are going to get many votes on November 3rd; in 3 and a half weeks time.

Thank you for taking the time to read my post

Yours sincerely

ingenious_forest

Comments (15)

  • tom Tom @ the BNC
    12 Oct 2020

    Well done for taking information from a range of sources, including our own posts from the Hub! You've mixed transcripts from the debate with your own thoughts, and also the thoughts of others. Although you say there was no outcome to the debate, do you think either candidate made their chances better / worse with their performance?

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  • Hammond School logo reflective_artic_fox | Hammond Junior School C
    12 Oct 2020

    This is a great post! Well done!

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    1. Faringdon-logo-250x250.jpg ingenious_forest | Faringdon Community College
      reflective_artic_fox's comment 12 Oct 2020

      Thanks reflective_arctic_fox,
      I am quite proud of this post!
      I have read through your "Has anyone run for president without a rival?" post, and it is great too!
      I have commented at the bottom; it may take you a little while to find the comment, as there are so many, and I have asked you a question about the post.
      ingenious_forest

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  • Faringdon-logo-250x250.jpg ingenious_forest | Faringdon Community College
    12 Oct 2020

    Hi Tom,
    Thank you for taking the time to read my post as it was very long!
    I think that both candidates made their chances of being elected worse; since a lot of people all over the world had an image of Joe Biden as very respectable, well mannered, and in general, everything that Donald Trump isn't.
    After that first debate, my estimation of Biden certainly went down for the reason that as grown-ups say a lot:
    "Be the bigger person; don't lower yourself to their level."
    That is exactly what Biden did, he lowered himself to Trump's level during that first debate; and has now likely lowered his chance of election.
    As for Trump, he was even worse than he was in 2016; his comments were a lot ruder, and to me, it is evident that he really needs to think about his priorities for this election; does he want to make himself look silly on live TV?
    Or does he want to spread his election campaign over the country, and fill it with good gestures, and promises?
    Once again, thank you for reading this, and the last post,
    ingenious_forest

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  • Hammond School logo sincere_atom | Hammond Junior School C
    16 Oct 2020

    Great post! I also don't think either of them really won and this debate lowered there chance of getting any more votes. Before this debate I was hoping that Joe Biden would win but after seeing how he behaved I'm not sure if I want to vote for him anymore.

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  • Ditton Logo genius_idea | Ditton Primary School A
    19 Oct 2020

    Great post I learned A lot thank you.😀

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  • Hammond School logo versatile_lime | Hammond Junior School E
    20 Oct 2020

    Woah, how do you type so much.This helped me a lot thank you!

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  • Hammond School logo adventurous_beaver | Hammond Junior School D
    20 Oct 2020

    That was a great summary, well done.

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  • Hammond School logo blessed_tradition | Hammond Junior School D
    20 Oct 2020

    I agree I honestly dont think that they had a winner like you said they were a bit childish

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  • Noel-Park-logo-250x250.jpg jovial_lime | Noel Park Primary School
    21 Oct 2020

    In my opinion i think no one won the debate as they were just being childish and just interupting eachother and just acting childish to be honsest.They were also just insulting eachother.Thank you for this amazing post 🎃🌟

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  • Michael-Faraday-logo-250x250.jpg consistent_starfruit | Michael Faraday School
    22 Oct 2020

    Personally there was no outcome to and I think many people agree with me but if I had to chose out of the bad apples I would chose Joe Biden. My reasoning is that Joe Biden was less aggressive and he didn't talk over the judge that often. What I'm not saying is both of them are out of the wrong. Did anybody win?

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  • Michael-Faraday-logo-250x250.jpg consistent_starfruit | Michael Faraday School
    22 Oct 2020

    Personally there was no outcome to the debate and I think many people agree with me but if I had to chose out of the bad apples I would chose Joe Biden. My reasoning is that Joe Biden was less aggressive and he didn't talk over the judge that often. What I'm not saying is both of them are out of the wrong. Did anybody win?

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    1. Faringdon-logo-250x250.jpg ingenious_forest | Faringdon Community College
      consistent_starfruit's comment 22 Oct 2020

      Hi consistent_starfruit,
      Thanks for your comment,
      After searching online, I found a reliable BBC article that stated Biden had won.
      It said:

      "In a debate that was the political equivalent of a food fight, the winner was the man who emerged least covered in slop.
      On Tuesday night, on the basis of instant polls and betting markets, that man was Joe Biden."

      This is probably the mainly accepted decision, but as I said in the title of my post;

      Was there an outcome to the debate?

      I still think that there was not an outcome, but I would love to hear your views on the winner!
      ingenious_forest

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  • Cheam Common logo mindful_mouse | Cheam Common Junior Academy
    22 Oct 2020

    What I think is that Biden won because Donald trump is in my opinion the worst president? in Americas entire history so he won't get many votes and whoever votes for trump needs to reconsider who they are going to try make president.

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  • Cheam Common logo magical_woodpecker | Cheam Common Junior Academy
    22 Oct 2020

    my opinion on it is that Donald trump should not be president for 4 more years because he has made america more violent weak sick and divided

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