Session four: voting

Please don't look ahead if you haven't done the session yet in the classroom, as that'll ruin the fun!

STEP 1

In the 2016 American election, only 61% of all adults voted. Does this matter? Why?

Read about the different people below. For each person, decide whether their reason is a “can’t vote” or a “won’t vote”.

Which is the strongest reason to not vote? Which are the ones you agree with or disagree with the most?

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STEP 2

What about in the rest of the world? What are the rules in other countries?

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answers: 1) Saudi Arabia 2) Belgium 3) North Korea 4) Brazil 5) Australia

  • Do you think these rules are fair?
  • Who has the power in each country?
  • Do any examples show a change in where the power lies?

STEP 3

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  • Is anything surprising about the timeline?
  • How does preventing a person from voting make them less powerful? What about a whole group of people?
  • Is it ever right to take away someone’s power to vote?

STEP 4

Who can't vote in America today?

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For each group, see if you can give one reason why they SHOULD be able to vote and one reason why they SHOULDN'T be allowed to vote. Which argument is stronger?

CHALLENGE: do the people really have the power?


STEP 5

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Over to you!

Head to the comments section below to share some of your thoughts on the activities and see what club members in other schools think.

Comments (47)

  • Boutcher-logo-250x250.jpg humble_insect | Boutcher C of E Primary School A
    05 Oct 2020

    i would pick person 8 because no one would want to vote if it is false information

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  • Michael-Faraday-logo-250x250.jpg flowing_strategy | Michael Faraday School
    05 Oct 2020

    I believe person 2 is the strongest reason, because quite obviously, they legally can't vote.
    But I believe Person 8 and 3. 8 because if it's false info, you obviously wouldn't feel like voting, as you can make the wrong choice. And 3 because you wouldn't be able to know what president wants to do what.

    Thanks for reading,
    flowing_strategy

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    1. Cheam Common logo quick_koala | Cheam Common Junior Academy
      flowing_strategy's comment 22 Oct 2020

      I agree because person 2 couldn't do it that was the law so he couldn't have.

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  • Lyons Hall Primary School giving_lynx | Lyons Hall Primary School B
    06 Oct 2020

    I would believe that person 2 and 8 are the strongest points because person 2 cant legally vote and person 8 has a point because you don't know what is true or false. Thanks for reading giving_lynx

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  • Ditton Logo joyous_flight | Ditton Primary School C
    07 Oct 2020

    I believe that person 2 and 8 because are the one's that I think person 2 can't legally be able to vote . Person 8 because they have a point .But do you know what is true or false ?

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  • Faringdon-logo-250x250.jpg careful_science | Faringdon Community College
    08 Oct 2020

    Here is my view, hope you consider.

    I would go for person two, person six and person seven. I would go for person two because as he plainly stated, he is underaged and this makes it impossible to vote in any way, shape or form. He can't vote because the law in America prohibits -or at least in most states- anybody under the age of 18 to vote in the U.S election. I would also go for person six because if your polling station in your town or city is closed and you have to go to work, the only way to vote is to not go to work for that day and that could get you either fired or you might have to lie, but you never know what type of job people have and it might be really important to go to work on that day. Furthermore, if you have gone to the polling station in your city before work and seen that it is closed, you would have already wasted a lot of time and would have no time to call into your office to tell them that you can't come into work today. Although, I would say that if you knew that it was closed (and you might have look it up or it could be a regular occurrence) you could plan ahead and get up early and go to another close by town or city where there is an open polling station or call into work and say you will be a bit late that day because you need to vote -i'm sure that they will understanding enough to let you come in 30 mins to 1 hour late. Lastly, I also agree (in a weird way) with person 7. I’m sure that many people would disagree with that but I think that although every vote counts and I'm all for trying to make everybody who can vote, vote; but in many ways the american electoral system is flawed. By this I mean that I don’t agree with the fact that bigger states get more ‘points’ because (I know it is hard to work out rules and laws and to try and make them fair) despite the fact that there are more people in the bigger states, I think that the location of the state matters. For instance, in the south of America where most of the larger states are (Texas, Alabama, New Mexico ect…), there are a lot of slightly out of date redneck type people. Also, in the past, the southern states were where most of the racist viewpoints where, it was also the last area of America to abolish the slave trade and where the confederatcy started. Therefore, the location of the states alter the viewpoints and the main demographic of the southern states is republican and is probably not going to change.

    Thank you for reading, hope you enjoyed it.

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    1. Olivia-Avatar.jpg Olivia @ the BNC
      careful_science's comment 08 Oct 2020

      This is a well-reasoned comment. You have thought about where different perspectives come from and identified potential bias, which is part of the listening skill. I would like to question your use of the phrase "slightly out of date redneck people". Although you give reasons for why these areas may vote predominantly republican, is it fair to call all republican voters in the south rednecks? Why might this term be seen as derogatory?

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      1. Faringdon-logo-250x250.jpg careful_science | Faringdon Community College
        Olivia @ the BNC's comment 08 Oct 2020

        I will agree that you could interpret it as being derogatory but what I meant to say is that in the southern states, they are usually more republican and that probably isn't going to change.

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  • Michael-Faraday-logo-250x250.jpg unique_tiger | Michael Faraday School
    08 Oct 2020

    I think person 2 is the strongest because they are too young to vote. I think that the second strongest is person 8 as she didn't know what to believe as there are always false information on the Internet.

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  • Manor Park logo thankful_bell | Manor Park Primary Academy
    08 Oct 2020

    I agree with person 2 as I am under 15 and person 8

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      1. Olivia-Avatar.jpg Olivia @ the BNC
        crafty_language's comment 19 Oct 2020

        Can you explain why you agree?

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  • Manor Park logo brave_cranberry | Manor Park Primary Academy
    08 Oct 2020

    I think that person 2 and person 8 have the strongest points because it would have been legal if you voted when you are 15, I also think person 8 is the strongest to because you don't know if it's true or not!
    Thanks for reading, brave_cranberry

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    1. Streatham-Wells-logo-250x250.jpg energetic_rambutan | Streatham Wells Primary School
      brave_cranberry's comment 08 Oct 2020

      I agree with person 8 but I believe that person 6's excuse was a better reason.

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  • Streatham-Wells-logo-250x250.jpg energetic_rambutan | Streatham Wells Primary School
    08 Oct 2020

    My thoughts for step four (the last one, under eighteens can't vote) is that it is fair.
    I think this because when you are eighteen, you become an adult and you are mature enough to take on such a responsibility.
    For the non-citizens can't vote, I think that isn't fair because if you live in America but you weren't born there that doesn't matter since you live there now and it is your home and has been for many years. Because you can't vote, you have to rely on the Americans to choose who runs your home/country.

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  • Michael-Faraday-logo-250x250.jpg delightful_effort | Michael Faraday School
    08 Oct 2020

    I think person 2 has the most powerful reason not to vote because he couldn't even vote if he wanted to. I think the rules are not fair mostly in North Korea because what is the point of voting if you can only vote for one person? I think it's never right to take someone's vote from them. I disagree with the rules to vote because I think people who are live in America but are not Citizens should get the right to vote because they still live in America. I also think they should lower the age to 15 because that means more people can get their voice heard. As well as that. ex-felons should get to vote depending what kind of crime they committed. I think when you think about the people who cant vote, It would make you feel more powerful because you can vote they can't. They don't have a say in the election they you do. I think you can loose your vote because you might do something that you are not meant to and get arrested. Another way you can loose it is if you pass away.
    If you can vote, don't hesitate because there are some people who want to vote but can't!

    Your VOTE is your VOICE!

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  • Manor Park logo brave_cranberry | Manor Park Primary Academy
    08 Oct 2020

    Though, I also think that person 6 has another strong point because if person 6 can't make it to the polling station it's not his fault.

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  • Michael-Faraday-logo-250x250.jpg delightful_effort | Michael Faraday School
    08 Oct 2020

    Person 1 had a lazy excuse and person 3 could of asked somebody for help. person 4 could of chose the one that was less annoying and number 5&7 should've voted because even if it doesn't make a difference, it doesn't take anything to vote. You don't have to pay to vote. I think number 8 is a strong reason but they could have guessed which information was true by looking more into it. Person 6 also had a mighty reason but he could have still voted by post.

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  • Michael-Faraday-logo-250x250.jpg memorable_dove | Michael Faraday School
    09 Oct 2020

    I believe that person two has the strongest point because she legally can't vote and I understand person 8 situation becuse you do not know what is true

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  • Ditton Logo witty_radio | Ditton Primary School A
    09 Oct 2020

    I understand with person 8s situation because you never know what's true. And I think person 1 had a very lazy excuse

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  • Hammond School logo practical_tree | Hammond Junior School A
    09 Oct 2020

    Person 1 can vote it is just rain

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  • avatar.jpg EXPERT: Sam Driver @ KPMG
    09 Oct 2020

    It's interesting to see that you agree with person 8, but think person 6 has a stronger reason. Why do you think that the reason person 6 gave is stronger than person 8?

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  • avatar.jpg EXPERT: Sam Driver @ KPMG
    09 Oct 2020

    You got me thinking with your comment about picking the less annoying candidate. Do you think someone should always vote in an election if they can? What if they do not agree with either of the candidates policies?

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  • avatar.jpg EXPERT: Sam Driver @ KPMG
    09 Oct 2020

    I like your point about being mature enough to vote at 18. What would you think if the voting age was lowered to 16? This has been proposed in the past here in the UK.

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  • avatar.jpg EXPERT: Sam Driver @ KPMG
    09 Oct 2020

    Hi Witty Radio, it is true that in can be hard to see what is true and false these days. Do you think that it is up to voters to research more into what they read and listen in the media? Or do you think it is up to the candidates and the media to report more facts, and how would this be done?

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  • avatar.jpg EXPERT: Sam Driver @ KPMG
    09 Oct 2020

    Hi Humble Insect, I think you have a good point here. However, do you think that more people should research into the candidates and policies themselves? This way they can decide what is true and what is false?

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  • Streatham-Wells-logo-250x250.jpg independent_coyote | Streatham Wells Primary School
    10 Oct 2020

    i say for the ex-felons to let them have a chance to vote depending on what they did to get in prison.

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  • Boutcher-logo-250x250.jpg gregarious_moon | Boutcher C of E Primary School B
    10 Oct 2020

    I think person 2 has the stongest point because it is illegal for them to vote! The are not allowed to! All of the others had desided not to because they didn't want to. Personally I think it was quite upseting that the didn't want to vote because every vote matters and the all count, they are lucky they have the chance to vote and get to have a say!!!

    Thank you for reading
    gregarious_moon

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  • Hammond School logo helpful_sparrow | Hammond Junior School B
    15 Oct 2020

    Here's my comment hope you like it

    I think person 6 has the most right not to vote because he did try to vote but his station closed and he had to go to work take this example. You are really late to work and if you miss this meeting you will get fired and you can't get another job. So then you'll have to go on the street and you have a family. Then your station closes and remember your late for work so you can't vote because you'll have to go to another station other wise. So you are forced to co to this meeting. But that's just 1 example there are many others but take this in mind this is my apinion so because of this comment don't change your mind
    Thank you for reading helpful_sparrows comment. BYE!

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  • Noel-Park-logo-250x250.jpg vibrant_tornado | Noel Park Primary School
    17 Oct 2020

    I believe number 2 and 8 as number 2 they obviously can’t legally vote and as for number 8 there is so much false information about the candidates that you don’t know what to believe and if you do vote you may vote for the wrong person and regret your decision so I feel it is reasonable that she did not vote
    Thank you for reading vibrant_tornado

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  • Boutcher-logo-250x250.jpg opinionated_badger | Boutcher C of E Primary School B
    19 Oct 2020

    I think person 2 is the most important because he is only fifteen so it will be illegal for him to vote. You should listen to the laws because if you break one, you will end up in prison and you will not be able to vote then. You actually have a privilege to vote so use it. In conclusion, I will say use your vote for it does count and you never know, your favourite candidate might win by one vote, your vote. YOUR VOTE COUNTS. Thank you for reading if you did read my comment.

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  • Noel-Park-logo-250x250.jpg jovial_lime | Noel Park Primary School
    20 Oct 2020

    I think that in the 2016 election where only 61% of people voted is a big deal as 3o% might of chosen the same person to vote for president and that can effect the government as it can be a tie.
    I think person #8 has the strongest reason because it is true,sometimes there are fake news on social media posted by the government and Trump himself,also sometimes we have to pick a side so when there is a tie between votes then there will be another election ...and another...and another and so on!
    ⭐️

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  • Willowtown-logo-250x250.jpg peaceful_cloud | Willowtown Community Primary School
    21 Oct 2020

    i believe 2 and 8 because they have very good reasons why they didnt vote and those reasons are very sensible

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  • Manor Park logo selfassured_journalist | Manor Park Primary Academy
    21 Oct 2020

    I think person 2 has the strongest reason as to why they didn't vote : Person 2 clearly was under the minimum age you have to be to vote. I also believe person 6 but thinking on it, it actually depends on what state he was in on the day. For example, if it was just a normal working day, he could've just booked a holiday in advance but if he had a very important thing to do, like a client meeting, he couldn't of taken break. 1 is Saudi Arabia, 2 is Belgium, 3 is North Korea, 4 is Brazil and 5 is Australia. I find it surprising that a specific rule (about who can vote) is the only one rule that changed. Preventing a person from voting makes them less powerful because you are actually denying them a chance to express their feelings and point of view. If this happened to a group of people, it could be understood as racism. I think you should never deprive someone of their vote if they are in the age limit. As I said above, you aren't letting them share their opinion. Ex-felons should be allowed to vote because some presidents even campaign while in prison.
    Ex-felons, however, shouldn't be allowed to vote as that would act as a punishment for their crime/crimes. Non citizens should be allowed to vote because it would be interesting to hear a different country's point of view. Non citizens, however, shouldn't be allowed to vote because they won't be as well informed. People under 18 should be allowed to vote because it would boost their confidence and make them more in touch with the world of politics. People under 18, however, shouldn't be allowed to vote because they might not understand certain areas of voting. I believe the people have the power because their votes will decide eg. more people's votes for Joe Biden would make him President. I disagree with John Lewis's statement because if all the polling stations were closed due to Co Vid, it wouldn't be fair because you had no choice. I would still disagree if I couldn't vote because of the law ( reasons above).
    I think if you can vote you have a responsibility to do so because although this clashes with my other statements, it is a privilege. I think you should think about the people who can't vote because they've lost a chance. It would make you more powerful because thoughts about them could decide a vote that would be better for even those who can vote. Thanks for reading!
    selfassured_journalist

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  • Beverley-St-Nicholas-logo-250x250.jpg outspoken_dog | Beverley St Nicholas Primary School
    22 Oct 2020

    why would you not vote because it is raining?

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  • Beverley-St-Nicholas-logo-250x250.jpg splendid_donkey | Beverley St Nicholas Primary School
    22 Oct 2020

    I think person 2 because he actually couldn’t it is against the law

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  • Boutcher-logo-250x250.jpg lovely_bee | Boutcher C of E Primary School A
    23 Oct 2020

    I agree with person two as he has a good reason why he couldn't vote (its against the law). I also agree with person 6 because he needs to get to work but the polling station is closed so how would he get to work on time, he might only be aloud to go to only that polling station because he lives near it.

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  • Cheam Park logo eager_reflection | Cheam Park Farm Primary
    25 Oct 2020

    eager_reflection here,
    I'm going to share my view about each of the people and if I think it is a valid reason or not.
    Person 1
    I think that this person does not have a good reason to vote. They are just being very lazy and don't want to get wet in the line. They should have just bought an umbrella or a raincoat, not waste their vote just because they dislike getting wet. This is basically saying that they do not go out at all when it is raining.
    Person 2
    I think that person 2 has a very good reason not to vote. This is because they are only 15 and it is illegal to vote if you are under 18.
    Person 3
    I think that person 3 has an alright reason not to vote. This is because they do not understand the policies so they do not understand what the candidates really want. If you don't know what they propose, you don't know who to vote for. On the other hand, you could just choose whoever you understand more, as you never know if their policies are what you wanted.
    Person 4
    I think that person 4 does not have a good reason not to vote. This is because if they do not like either of the candidates, they still have to like one of them more than the other, so they should vote for that person. After all, you are voting for the person who will shape your country, so choose who you think is better, even if you dislike both.
    Person 5
    I think that person 5 does not have a good reason not to vote, because they do not know if their vote will make a difference to the end result, despite them saying that it will. Their one vote could even win their chosen candidate the election, if one party is ahead in your state by one vote.
    Person 6
    I think that person 6 does not have a valid reason not to vote.This is because, in America, you can vote by post, so person 6 could have posted their vote beforehand. They could also come in a little late to work and give their employers the truth about why they were late.
    Person 7
    I think that person 7 does not have a good reason not to vote. This is because even if their state is worth only three electoral points, their vote can make one candidate win, because those three points are enough to flip the election.
    Person 8
    I think that person 8 also has an alright reason not to vote, because they did not know who to believe, bu they could go to a trusted source to find the correct information they need to know who to vote for. Also, if they know what is false, they can think about who posted it. If it was a member of the Republican party, it can give information about the candidate of that party. They could have told that member to post this, which could persuade you to vote for the Democrats, or vice versa.
    Thank you for reading my comment.

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  • Hillyfield School logo fiery_globe | Hillyfield Primary Academy
    26 Oct 2020

    I think that person 2 has a bad decision because it has been 6000 years since the world has started and they never gave children a chance to vote like with the women in Ancient Greek but it stopped . So give children a chance to vote as nothing catastrophic would happen. at least 9-17 of age.

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    1. katie.jpg Katie @ the BNC
      fiery_globe's comment 27 Oct 2020

      What do you mean by "it has been 6000 years since the world has started", fiery_globe? The Earth is 4-5 billion years old.

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  • Lyons Hall Primary School courageous_meerkat | Lyons Hall Primary School D
    04 Nov 2020

    this is so cool and so true

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  • Boutcher-logo-250x250.jpg poetic_mouse | Boutcher C of E Primary School A
    04 Nov 2020

    who are u voting? for the USA election today if your in USA and from USA or maybe if your not there u could tell us if you was there? comment down below

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